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PFF: how much did we upgrade with Byrd over Jenkins?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:04 pm
Well that settles that.
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:06 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
PFF;dr
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:08 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Idk man Jenkins was better in 2010... Maybe we made a mistake
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:10 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Charts?
I deedn't need no steenkin charts main.
But dayum hombre getting work done.
I deedn't need no steenkin charts main.
But dayum hombre getting work done.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:11 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
put this PFF summation of him as a signing somewhere-
Probably the only elite, blue chip player available in free agency this season, Byrd is one of those rare and coveted free safeties with the range, discipline and instincts to play as a Cover-1 safety. In the last two seasons Byrd has only earned a negative coverage grade in seven times and the lowest of those was a -1.0 grade against the Texans in Week 9 last season. His last “red” coverage (of only four in his career) came back in 2011.
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Getting rid of the Yaris and driving a like new Mercedes into the dome
Probably the only elite, blue chip player available in free agency this season, Byrd is one of those rare and coveted free safeties with the range, discipline and instincts to play as a Cover-1 safety. In the last two seasons Byrd has only earned a negative coverage grade in seven times and the lowest of those was a -1.0 grade against the Texans in Week 9 last season. His last “red” coverage (of only four in his career) came back in 2011.
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Getting rid of the Yaris and driving a like new Mercedes into the dome
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:11 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Biggest thing that stands out to me is that even in Byrds worst year, he was never negative. So even at his worst, he was still better than Jenkins 60% of the time 
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:14 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Byrd played on some pretty bad teams in Buffalo also
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:27 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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So even at his worst, he was still better than Jenkins 60% of the time
Wow. how the hell was our defense that good with Jenkins on the field?????
huge props to the coaches and GM for addressing this.
did anyone STer realize what a HUGE problem we had in Jenkins?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:31 pm to BobBoucher
it was hard to exactly point to jenkins imo. way easier to see on paper though. championship has to be a lock now right?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:32 pm to BobBoucher
Some people. Harper was the one that got the most negative attention though. Both were bad but at least Harper was good at SOMEthing.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:32 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
did anyone STer realize what a HUGE problem we had in Jenkins?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:37 pm to goatmilker
You have to admit. More people were pointing at Harper than Jenkins for awhile. Maybe not you regulars on this board but the average fan would say Harper was a problem and Jenkins was an up and coming talent. Idk why but its true. In my circles it was true anyway.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:38 pm to illuminatic
yeah I rarely heard jeknins getting called out. People loved to hate on harper much more.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:39 pm to GMoney2600
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Byrd played on some pretty bad teams in Buffalo also
That's the most impressive part to me.
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Look at those offense and defense record. Terrible; and the only counter to how impressive it is to stand out on a bad defense as a back is the Asomugha argument, but his int's kind of dispell that teams just simply avoided him.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:39 pm to BobBoucher
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did anyone STer realize what a HUGE problem we had in Jenkins?
plenty IMO
My biggest fear going into the offseason was that the Saints might give him a deal not even as rich as philly did.
He's fine utility player who could backup 3 positions. Just don't depend on him as a long term starter at any.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:41 pm to BobBoucher
quote:Sarcasm?
did anyone STer realize what a HUGE problem we had in Jenkins?
I've been saying since 2011 that Jenkins is average at best but makes too many mistakes to be a starter. The bad has almost always outweighed the good.
For every Jackson goalline tackle or Bryant strip from behind there are about 30 missed tackles and 5 dropped picks.
Edit:
And yeah Harper was poor in coverage, but I blame the dumb arse coaches for constantly trying to put a square peg in a star hole.
Ryan actually used him extremely well last year.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:46 pm to BobBoucher
I understood him not having the instincts. You either have it or you don't. That's reflected in the angles he took. What was unforgivable (and completely correctable) was his shoulder tackling.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:46 pm to BobBoucher
The problem with assessing Jenkins is that the potential is there.. He just can't seem to be able to access it. He didn't look that bad in his first season as a safety.. then, well... yeah..
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:47 pm to Patrick O Rly
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was his shoulder tackling.
Or where he barely wrapped his arms around a guy trying not to hit him with his body and use his full weight to bring him down.
Yeah his tackling was atrocious.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:53 pm to bonethug0108
looking back on it, it was just a terrible pick to begin with. To think a guy that mostly played CB could come in and be an NFL safety.
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