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re: PFF: how much did we upgrade with Byrd over Jenkins?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:56 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:56 pm to bonethug0108
you don't have to look hard to see it-
Wonder if he'll still be in philly when we visit there in 2015?
Wonder if he'll still be in philly when we visit there in 2015?
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 12:58 pm
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:58 pm to blueslover
Third pick he's being held, but yeah. 
He refuses to stay on his feet AND use his arms + body together. It's either shoulder dive or weak arm wrap. No body.
He refuses to stay on his feet AND use his arms + body together. It's either shoulder dive or weak arm wrap. No body.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:58 pm to blueslover
Throwing him in to Sharper's role in his second season was a huge mistake for his development, if it was ever going to happen.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:59 pm to blueslover
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This pic alone sums up why I've really enjoyed this offseason.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:59 pm to blueslover
In almost every single one of those pics you can see he is getting ran by. His biggest problem was his angles were absolutely dismal.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:04 pm to sicboy
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:05 pm to Lester Earl
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To think a guy that mostly played CB could come in and be an NFL safety.
given byrd playing corner in college, i assume its a joke?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:09 pm to Lester Earl
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looking back on it, it was just a terrible pick to begin with. To think a guy that mostly played CB could come in and be an NFL safety.
considering the fact our defense could have cushing or matthews as LB. Even harvin as a WR.
We could be the most dominant defense going into '14 if we had cushing or matthews. That'd put us with a playmaker on every level of the defense.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:15 pm to NoSaint
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given byrd playing corner in college, i assume its a joke?
not saying it doesn't happen. But to pick a guy at 14, it's a big risk
Also, much like a guy like Mathieu, Byrd proved to be a ball hawk in college, and a switch made much more sense. Jenkins showed some skills in that regard, but Byrd had 17 INTS in only 3 seasons. Jenkins, 11 in 4 years.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:19 pm to BobBoucher
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did anyone STer realize what a HUGE problem we had in Jenkins?
LINK
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:41 am
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Jenkins still has a chance to turn ut around it get better
Not at free safety. The guy is one of the worst in zone coverage. When you have two safeties that can't read plays and adequately play their deep zones, you will get abused like last year. I am not surprised by Harper's lack of coverage capabilities. He's too slow to cover a WR in man-to-man and has bricks for hands when it comes to making plays on the ball. The most surprising thing about the pair of them is Jenkins - he hasn't done well since his rookie year when he was at corner. He's had 2 years to learn how to play zone and just can't. He's pretty terrible at tackling. I can't really defend the guy, whereas Harper you know what you're getting. A good tackler and blitzer with limited coverage capabilities.
It's always been apparent to me that Jenkins was a problem, so I guarantee that the coaches knew that going into the season this year. But when you are up against the cap and have to pick the lesser of to evils, keeping Jenkins was a better decision than to cut him last year. Who was the best FA prospect at safety last year - Ed Reed?
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:11 pm to bountyhunter
This FO thinks two steps ahead.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:36 pm to illuminatic
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Harper was the one that got the most negative attention though. Both were bad but at least Harper was good at SOMEthing.
yea, people just wouldn't forgive Harper for the Seattle debacle in 2010/11 season. Every time something bad happened in the secondary, the same people would blame him, even if it was blatantly on Jenkins.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:39 pm to htran90
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considering the fact our defense could have cushing or matthews as LB.
Meh. I question whether Cushing will be able to walk, let alone play, in three years
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:50 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Still have nightmares of Vernon Davis torching us, mostly MJ, in the 2012 playoff game.
Fumbles too.
Fumbles too.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:52 pm to dchunk
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Still have nightmares of Vernon Davis torching us, mostly MJ, in the 2012 playoff game.
Yep. And a ton of people blamed it on Harper.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:55 pm to REG861
If I remember correctly, Harper was the one that was burned on the game winner. I know there are 60 minutes in a game, but that was the most glaring play for obvious reasons
To me, the most painful play of the game was when Alex Smith did the bootleg run and Will Smith bit hard, saw it, and turned around and started running painfully slow and you just knew Alex Smith was not going to be caught.
To me, the most painful play of the game was when Alex Smith did the bootleg run and Will Smith bit hard, saw it, and turned around and started running painfully slow and you just knew Alex Smith was not going to be caught.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:55 pm to dchunk
What are you talking about? I don't remember a playoff game in Frisco in 2012....
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Jan 14 2012
Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:04 pm to REG861
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Meh. I question whether Cushing will be able to walk, let alone play, in three years
the brees window is what, 5-6 years? half of it is good for me! hahah
Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:06 pm to Hoodoo Man
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PFF;dr
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