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re: Jason Verrett & Jarvis Landry...What could have been...

Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:18 pm to
here are your stats that show who is more VERSATILE. Because that is what we were talking about. who is more versatile.These are carreer stats.

Brandin Cooks

receiving - 11.8 yds/catch 60.7 yds/gm 7TDs
Rushing - 10 rushes 7.0yd avg 1TD
Punt Return - 10 returns 3.5 yd avg long of 15yards
Kick Return - 1 return 12 yards
passing - no stats

Jarvis Landry

receiving - 9.4 yds/catch 52.9 yds/gm 7TDs
rushing - 14 rushes 6.5 yd avg 1TD
Punt Return - 46 returns 9.4 yd avg long of 69 1TD
Kick Return - 43 returns 27.3 yd avg long of 74
passing - 1/1 for 9 yards with a 100% completion percentage

Yall wanted stats and i think they speak for themselves. The receiving and rushing stats are very similar but besides that Jarvis contributes alot more to his team by fitting into many different roles. What is the word to describe that? oh..... versatility.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:22 pm to
So according to that, Cooks is a better receiver and rusher than Landry, despite missing half of his rookie season to injury.

Cool. That's what we drafted him to be, a receiver. It would be retarded to put your WR #1 on punts and Kickoffs

So they both have 8 TDs at WR (+1 for Landry on punts) despite Cooks missing half his rookie year

Cooks is pulling away. You know it too
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278250 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:26 pm to
Thanks for disproving your own points, mate
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:34 pm to
that is why the stats were in a per game format genius. They were very similar. I dont know if you can remember because your attention span doesnt seem to be too long but we were discussing which player was more versatile. the stats clearly show landry is more versatile. As to your notion that "it would be retarded to put your #1 WR on punts and kickoffs", tell that to the steelers and antonio brown. they have done it for years with resounding success and without antonio getting hurt. The saints dont play brandin cooks on returns anymore because he was not good at returns. a 3.5 yd avg on punt returns is terrible and he had 10 attempts.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:36 pm to
You are literally too stupid to hold a conversation with.
Go look up the definition of versatility and get back to me.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:38 pm to
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that is why the stats were in a per game format genius.


So Cooks and Landry average 7 TDs/game

Impressive
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

The saints dont play brandin cooks on returns anymore because he was not good at returns. a 3.5 yd avg on punt returns is terrible and he had 10 attempts.


Wow! 10 attempts

Crazy how Sproles wasn't a good returner with the Saints (8.0, #23 and 6.7, #19) and then goes to Philly (13.0, #1 and 14.7, #1) and blows up.

He clearly sucked at returning punts
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:50 pm to
both of those sproles stats are double brandin cooks' production and i dont think any saints fan would say darren sproles "sucked" at punt returns. keep reaching though.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:52 pm to
We finished 17th, 26th, and 30th in punt returns from 2011-2013.

Derp

Saints have been in the top 20 in punt return average twice since 2006 with an average rank of 23

Reggie and Sproles just weren't good enough I guess

We drafted him to play WR
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278250 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:59 pm to
again, when i said versatility I meant it as far as running routes. returning punts and kicks does not give him any value as a WR.


Antonio Brown is the best WR in the league, because he is a great WR, not because he return punts.

Patrick Peterson is one of the best CBs in the league because he is a great CB, not because he can return punts.


It says enough that you have to try and build Landry up because he plays special teams too. His body of work as a WR doesn't stand well on its own compared to most other WRs.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59691 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:06 pm to
It's a punt return bro. You make the first man or two miss(which Cooksy obvi couldn't do) and then run to space. Even a 7-8 yd average shows that you're at least getting upfield some of the time.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:08 pm to
The point

Your head

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59691 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:10 pm to
OH yea I forgot, Cooks can't run back a punt bc the Dome is cursed..built on a burial ground.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:12 pm to
Exactly what I said. You're a smart one

Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:13 pm to
You guys are giving me a headache
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:46 pm to
Im with you. Anyone whom thinks cooks is > or = to jarvis at this point is delusional. Only reason they even look remotely close on paper is bc one of them plays with Tannehil. What the frick are ya'll smoking?
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

It says enough that you have to try and build Landry up because he plays special teams too. His body of work as a WR doesn't stand well on its own compared to most other WRs.

What games are you watching. Dude is Mr. Consistent. Catches everything thrown is way. Is top 10 in NFL in receptions currently.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68466 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

he's not a stud, especially all capitalized. but he is a pretty good slot WR. top 5 in the league id say


You are getting a complete player though. Can lay the wood on ST, can return punts to the house, and is a damn fine wr. Still pissed they didnt draft him. And i think we can question the coaching staffs draft abilities since most of them havent worked out.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Is top 10 in NFL in receptions currently.


And somehow still has less yards and TDs despite those receptions
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