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re: Zach Lowe on Potential Summer Pels Trade
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:14 am to 42
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:14 am to 42
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Still, many a team needs a wing... Could be tough sledding.
Yup. Competent wings and rim protectors are the valuable resources right now.
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not working out 100% in Tornonto
Toronto is an interesting team. Things have not been going well for months there and the roster is still mainly the one Colangelo put together. Ujiri may be looking to shake things up.
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:42 am to TigerinATL
Retain everyone but Ryno. Move him for a Gerald Green / Corey Brewer type. I'd consider that a successful offseason in a realistic world. You finally have the quality depth on this team. Give Monty a full year with it and provide him roster consistency. No more excuses.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:46 am to TigerinATL
the knock on holiday coming in was not that he's not efficient on offense but that he's not effective
everything he does on offense he need to do more of...drive, shoot, draw fouls. this is on the coach I feel because he clearly has the talent. Couple that with the fact that he is our only perimeter stopper and by elimination holiday is the keeper
Evans/Gordon/Anderson are one dimensional and redundant. I would keep Evans and move the shooters
everything he does on offense he need to do more of...drive, shoot, draw fouls. this is on the coach I feel because he clearly has the talent. Couple that with the fact that he is our only perimeter stopper and by elimination holiday is the keeper
Evans/Gordon/Anderson are one dimensional and redundant. I would keep Evans and move the shooters
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:15 am to cgrand
Move the shooters? Do you remember how bad this team was last season, because they didn't have shooters? If Gordon or Ryno are moved they need to be moved for shooters.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:19 am to Epic Cajun
Also factor in that unless you have defensive ability, it will take Monty at least half a season to trust you, so just bringing in a new shooter is easier said than done. And is that lack of trust from Monty what killed Jimmer's shot?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:23 am to Epic Cajun
Gordon and Anderson make 23MM combined to do one thing and one thing only. Yes...move the shooters we have and regroup
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:28 am to ShamelessPel
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Move him for a Gerald Green.
If you believe defense is the problem, you can't possibly spend much to get Gerald Green.
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the knock on holiday coming in was not that he's not efficient on offense but that he's not effective
I'm pretty sure it was that he's not efficient. He put up nice counting stats in Philadelphia. Coming in he took too many long 2s, didn't get to the line that often and didn't finish well at the rim. In NO, he's cut down on the long 2s and is finishing better. He's more efficient, but he hasn't proven he can be a lead dog of an offense. Think Mike Conley, which is a pretty good player.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:31 am to cgrand
I think we should keep Reke and EG. EG is a good defender and really good 3pt threat. He would be a better defender with Jrue bc he doesn't need to guard the top ball handler.
Reke is definitely needed bc of his durability, flexibility, and ability to be create his own shot (reason he needs to be 6th man). You need a guy like Reke for the long reg season.
Reke is definitely needed bc of his durability, flexibility, and ability to be create his own shot (reason he needs to be 6th man). You need a guy like Reke for the long reg season.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:39 am to corndeaux
yes you're right I got it backwards
he finished well but not often enough
He shite FTs well but not enough
Etc
he finished well but not often enough
He shite FTs well but not enough
Etc
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:42 am to cgrand
what can you really get in return for Gordon and Ryno? Are you going to get something better than the shooting that they bring?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:49 am to Epic Cajun
the return on ryno would be higher than the return on EG.
I do think Monty has learned something though, late in the game last night he took the ball away from tyreke and put it in EG's hands. That makes the most sense and that is why you don't trade EG if Holiday's status is questionable still.
He can handle the ball decently
He can make passes when there is an open man
He can make shots anywhere on the floor at a decent clip
He spaces for your big man and pulls a defender sometimes
How do you get rid of that?
I do think Monty has learned something though, late in the game last night he took the ball away from tyreke and put it in EG's hands. That makes the most sense and that is why you don't trade EG if Holiday's status is questionable still.
He can handle the ball decently
He can make passes when there is an open man
He can make shots anywhere on the floor at a decent clip
He spaces for your big man and pulls a defender sometimes
How do you get rid of that?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 11:08 am to Epic Cajun
maybe maybe not
the point is the roster as constructed has several players making good money who are essentially one dimensional
Davis need creators around him not just spot up shooting. Spacing is all well and good but Davis is not a creator at this point in his career. I think the article from Shwan that corndeaux posted is pretty well on. Obviously those are the hardest players to find but unless you move Gordon or Anderson or both you don't even have a chance to find one
holiday needs to step up
He is the 2nd best player on the team in terms of 2 way skills. Asik, Gordon, Anderson, Evans etc are all one way. Evans is the hardest to replace so that's why I'm in favor of keeping him as a core piece along with asik
the point is the roster as constructed has several players making good money who are essentially one dimensional
Davis need creators around him not just spot up shooting. Spacing is all well and good but Davis is not a creator at this point in his career. I think the article from Shwan that corndeaux posted is pretty well on. Obviously those are the hardest players to find but unless you move Gordon or Anderson or both you don't even have a chance to find one
holiday needs to step up
He is the 2nd best player on the team in terms of 2 way skills. Asik, Gordon, Anderson, Evans etc are all one way. Evans is the hardest to replace so that's why I'm in favor of keeping him as a core piece along with asik
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:21 pm to cgrand
how do we feel about Danilo gallinari? He could be gettable
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:58 pm to cgrand
Do you really want to add another player with an injury history to this roster.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
ACL is becoming pretty routine to recover from. I'd be more concerned about his defense, but he's basically what everyone wants Ryno to be, a SF version of Ryno.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 3:36 pm to corndeaux
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If you believe defense is the problem, you can't possibly spend much to get Gerald Green.
I'm not really one to freak out about 3&D. I just want a traditional SF to remove the Monty/Ryno combination from the equation.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 3:38 pm to cgrand
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Gordon and Anderson make 23MM combined to do one thing and one thing only.
This is just false. Gordon is far from one-dimensional. He is a deft passers and a much, much better defender than Evans or Anderson.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/11/15 at 3:39 pm to TigerinATL
He's been pretty atrocious this year, though.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 4:04 pm to Epic Cajun
What's everyone's feelings on Danny Green?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 4:15 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Gordon's passing is good to average and his defense is below average. My point is that he is not (or is no longer) a creator
I would think the nugs would rather have Anderson anyway. Of the two I would keep Gordon if possible but I don't think you are getting a difference maker just for Anderson at this point.
I would think the nugs would rather have Anderson anyway. Of the two I would keep Gordon if possible but I don't think you are getting a difference maker just for Anderson at this point.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 4:30 pm
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