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re: To those who think Solo is Grossly Overpaid
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:14 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:14 am to Lester Earl
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I mean come on. Stop acting like we're crazy
You know what's crazy? We may be about to trade a 1st for Jeremy Lin. A player Demps would have signed if he hadn't already paid Solomon Hill $12 million. But it gets better. If you choose Ennis and Lin over Hill, not only do you get to keep that 1st, you might be able to replace Hill with Simmons for the MLE. There is a question if for similar money Simmons would leave the Spurs, but you could offer him a starting job so I think there's a chance.
Hill + Lin
or
Ennis + Simmons + Lin + 1st
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:16 am to TigerinATL
Ya I really get the feeling this offseason that Dell gets stuck on guys he believes in and just can't move off them for whatever reason. I mean we are bringing freaking Darrius Miller back.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:18 am to TheJruth
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I mean we are bringing freaking Darrius Miller back.
I'm actually kind of optimistic about Miller. If he can shoot now he can bring a lot of what QPon brought when he was healthy.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:28 am to TigerinATL
Jesus that is depressing.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:28 am to TigerinATL
i think you can defend the Hill signing with the roster and vision they seemed to have in mind last season.
if you have Davis playing a good chunk at the 5, Hill playing up at the 4 often makes some more sense and can approach his annual $$
if you have Davis at the 4 for half the game, Ennis makes more sense and Hill at the 3 more frequently is a bad bad bad contract.
the question would then be- they seemingly knew Davis would not be happy playing the 5 as much as he did, so why spend big on Hill?
if you have Davis playing a good chunk at the 5, Hill playing up at the 4 often makes some more sense and can approach his annual $$
if you have Davis at the 4 for half the game, Ennis makes more sense and Hill at the 3 more frequently is a bad bad bad contract.
the question would then be- they seemingly knew Davis would not be happy playing the 5 as much as he did, so why spend big on Hill?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:41 am to corndeaux
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the question would then be- they seemingly knew Davis would not be happy playing the 5 as much as he did, so why spend big on Hill?
I'd like to say they hoped AD would get over it, but then why sign Asik for so long?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 9:23 am to TigerinATL
Have an upvote
Posted on 7/7/17 at 9:51 am to corndeaux
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the question would then be- they seemingly knew Davis would not be happy playing the 5 as much as he did, so why spend big on Hill?
I'm 100% sure now that Dell has this infatuation with certain players and he expects the coach to "make it work".
We've seen it with Monty and a bunch of offensive players.
We've seen it with Gentry and a bunch of defensive players.
He goes for players he likes, not what the system dictates.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:12 pm to TigerinATL
We would have already signed Lin if he didnt choose Brooklyn over us.
He gets about 13 million a year, similar to Rivers. Offensive player who can score, run some point. Not very good on defense.
But this team needs perimeter scoring/playmaking bad. Lin is an upgrade over frazier
He gets about 13 million a year, similar to Rivers. Offensive player who can score, run some point. Not very good on defense.
But this team needs perimeter scoring/playmaking bad. Lin is an upgrade over frazier
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:30 pm to P bean
Shut up
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:41 pm to htran90
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I'm 100% sure now that Dell has this infatuation with certain players and he expects the coach to "make it work".
And that would be fine to an extent if you stick to hiring coaches that build around their roster, not force their roster around their system.
He should of hired a JVG, Malone, or just any coach in the mold of a Carlisle or Stevens. Coaches that aren't tethered to a style of play but instead tether their style of play to the players they have. Monty was like half that, and instead of going and finding a guy that was fully that, he went and got a system coach who is now trying to become more like those coaches we need by bringing in new coaching personnel. Trying to teach a 62 year old dog new tricks.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:43 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
You know what's crazy? We may be about to trade a 1st for Jeremy Lin. A player Demps would have signed if he hadn't already paid Solomon Hill $12 million. But it gets better. If you choose Ennis and Lin over Hill, not only do you get to keep that 1st, you might be able to replace Hill with Simmons for the MLE. There is a question if for similar money Simmons would leave the Spurs, but you could offer him a starting job so I think there's a chance.
Hill + Lin
or
Ennis + Simmons + Lin + 1st
Somehow I had managed to forget the whole Ennis opportunity cost situation and put it out of my mind....Now I want to throw up.
EDIT: To make it worse, had you done your alternative scenario, having Lin would provide more leverage in negotiations with Jrue. Since you wouldn't be up shits creek if Jrue bolted.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:50 pm to Lester Earl
Earl you don't know your arse from your ear. And you definitely don't know squat about the NBA
Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:25 am to P bean
It was not like Lin had chosen BRK because he preffered them.
Both offered him s5. But Dell had his own max in his head.
BRK gave him more money.
TBH Lin lost half of season due to injury.
Both offered him s5. But Dell had his own max in his head.
BRK gave him more money.
TBH Lin lost half of season due to injury.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:44 am to P bean
Ask him about how wrist follow through on a jump shot still affects the ball (after it's no longer in contact with your hand).
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:45 am to pawel
Negative. Lin chose Brooklyn because they offered to let him start.
Jrue has been our target all along, long term. Lin was tyreke's replacement. We knew tyreke was hurt, wasnt buying in etc. Even to media and fans it was obvious, from his media quotes to his gameplay. Reke likes the ball, he isnt meant for a movement offense. He was trade bait all last season.
Also, Lin was coming off a season with charlotte where he did well in that 6th man/playmaker spot behind Kemba Walker, during a playoff run. Unfortunately for Brooklyn Lin was hurt last year, but he did play well when he played, offensively. Sucks on Defense though.
Jrue has been our target all along, long term. Lin was tyreke's replacement. We knew tyreke was hurt, wasnt buying in etc. Even to media and fans it was obvious, from his media quotes to his gameplay. Reke likes the ball, he isnt meant for a movement offense. He was trade bait all last season.
Also, Lin was coming off a season with charlotte where he did well in that 6th man/playmaker spot behind Kemba Walker, during a playoff run. Unfortunately for Brooklyn Lin was hurt last year, but he did play well when he played, offensively. Sucks on Defense though.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:46 am to Epic Cajun
Earl cant shoot or jump, lol. So a jump shot is out of the question, hahaha
Posted on 7/8/17 at 12:02 pm to P bean
Lin was also going to start in NO. Firstly because Gentry wanted ballhandlee alongside Jrue. Secondly because at that time brain tumor was found.
It was just money related.
Does not really matter. He bacame Net
It was just money related.
Does not really matter. He bacame Net
Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:34 pm to pawel
Lin probably would have started when Jrue was out. However he would be behind Jrue after he returned. We did experiment with starting Jrue at SG at the end of the year, while trying to get Jrue comfortable with Boogie and AD, and Lin wouldve started then too. But otherwise Jrue is our starting PG and he spent most of last season starting at PG. We didnt sell Lin on a starting spot, Lin is on record saying so.
By the way Lin at 12 million a year is kind of a bargain deal in today's NBA. Which is basically the point being made in this thread. NBA pays bank.
LINK
Jrue is our starting PG. Lin would have been our combo guard, and secondary playmaker.
Brooklyn had no one. He went to Brooklyn to try and have a chance at being the no. 1 lead guard/playmaker.
If we trade for Lin he will be a combo guard, run some PG, and be our secondary playmaker at guard. I wouldn't be against it, because we are in desperate need of perimeter help that can shoot threes. Lin has gotten steadily better with his three ball through his career, and he can run the offense. Plus, there isnt much else out there that we can get.
Edit: Lin would shred some backups running the offense with the second unit and Boogie. The rotation we ran with Boogie last year had Boogie sitting first, then coming back in when Jrue and AD got their first break. That backup unit with Boogie did not do well last year. Crawford and Boogie were all we had. Lin would help that second unit with Boogie ALOT.
By the way Lin at 12 million a year is kind of a bargain deal in today's NBA. Which is basically the point being made in this thread. NBA pays bank.
LINK
Jrue is our starting PG. Lin would have been our combo guard, and secondary playmaker.
Brooklyn had no one. He went to Brooklyn to try and have a chance at being the no. 1 lead guard/playmaker.
If we trade for Lin he will be a combo guard, run some PG, and be our secondary playmaker at guard. I wouldn't be against it, because we are in desperate need of perimeter help that can shoot threes. Lin has gotten steadily better with his three ball through his career, and he can run the offense. Plus, there isnt much else out there that we can get.
Edit: Lin would shred some backups running the offense with the second unit and Boogie. The rotation we ran with Boogie last year had Boogie sitting first, then coming back in when Jrue and AD got their first break. That backup unit with Boogie did not do well last year. Crawford and Boogie were all we had. Lin would help that second unit with Boogie ALOT.
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:37 pm to P bean
quote:
By the way Lin at 12 million a year is kind of a bargain deal in today's NBA
But you've argued for 5 pages how he made the same as Hill
You're basically saying Hill is over paid
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