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re: Timofey Mozgov available?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:20 pm to patendedgmf
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:20 pm to patendedgmf
This is hilarious...
Cleveland sent out Wiggins, Bennett, and a 2015 1st round pick for Love
Then go and send out Love for EG, Asik, and Anderson.
You just traded Wiggins (the next "star"), Bennett (bust), and a 1st round pick for EG, Asik, and Anderson
That, in total hindsight, looks like the example of how to get yourself fired.
Cleveland sent out Wiggins, Bennett, and a 2015 1st round pick for Love
Then go and send out Love for EG, Asik, and Anderson.
You just traded Wiggins (the next "star"), Bennett (bust), and a 1st round pick for EG, Asik, and Anderson
That, in total hindsight, looks like the example of how to get yourself fired.
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:23 pm to htran90
I can't convince you that EG/Ryno/Asik is better than Mozgov/Love this year.
So, tell me which team you would rather have NEXT season.
1.)
Starting: Dwight/Ryno/Lebron/EG/Kyrie
BENCH: Asik/Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
2.)
Starting: Mozgov/Love/Lebron/ ? $15mm /Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
3.)
Starting: Dwight/Lebron/Jae Crowder/JR/Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/Mo
So, tell me which team you would rather have NEXT season.
1.)
Starting: Dwight/Ryno/Lebron/EG/Kyrie
BENCH: Asik/Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
2.)
Starting: Mozgov/Love/Lebron/ ? $15mm /Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
3.)
Starting: Dwight/Lebron/Jae Crowder/JR/Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/Mo
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:28 pm to WB504
Part of a bigger deal
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:38 pm to chesty
quote:For sure.
Part of a bigger deal
I still think we are resigning Ryno.
But, there are few teams that could put our boys to use better than a Love-less Cavs... and few centers I'd love to give a half season to prove it, more than Mozgov. Especially while shedding Asik in the process.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:45 pm to patendedgmf
quote:
Turn Love and Mozgov expiring into:
Free Agent Dwight, Asik, Bird Rights Ryno, Bird Rights EG.... lead the league in tax!! Why not?
Because there is a salary cap. How are they going to trade for and resign all of those AND have room to sign Dwight? Cap Holds are real.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:46 pm to patendedgmf
quote:
I can't convince you that EG/Ryno/Asik is better than Mozgov/Love this year.
So, tell me which team you would rather have NEXT season.
1.)
Starting: Dwight/Ryno/Lebron/EG/Kyrie
BENCH: Asik/Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
2.)
Starting: Mozgov/Love/Lebron/ ? $15mm /Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/JR/Mo
3.)
Starting: Dwight/Lebron/Jae Crowder/JR/Kyrie
Bench: Thompson/Varejao/Iman/Mo
How do they add Dwight with that payroll?
ETA - trading for Crowder makes them a better team and saves them a boatload in luxury tax
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:57 pm to NOFOX
I goofed on the cap holds. doh!
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:02 pm to patendedgmf
Even if they could somehow manage to land Dwight, that team is probably costing $250M+ in luxury tax since they would be a repeat offender.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:27 pm to patendedgmf
quote:
I can't convince you that EG/Ryno/Asik is better than Mozgov/Love this year.
And all analytic and numbers say they have not been. Ryno and Asik take Love and Mozgov's minutes, but add in EG and he takes Delly, Shumpert, or Smith's and those 3 are equivalent to him.
You also have to remember the numberical stats like PPG that EG/RYNO put up are only there because they have the attempts in NOLA. They won't combine for 26 attempts a game.
Ryno v Love being the primary objective, Love has been a better defender in his career and even more so this year, better passer and rebounder, but worse shooter this year.
You look at more advanced stats and Love brings a positive box +/- whereas Ryno brings a negative box +/- due to his extremely porous defense.
EG is a better shooter and ball handler than Shumpert and Smith, but he's a far worse defender then them as well. vastly worse DRTG 112 to Shumpert's 102 and Smith's 104.
but overall better offensive threat than both showing his offensive box +/- is 1.8 to Shumpert's -1.6 and Smith's 1.2, only his defense +/- is -2.2 to Shumpert's +1.4 and SMith's -0.1. Pretty much a wash.
Then Mozgov and Asik? It is pretty much a lateral trade, but you take on Asik's contract for a long time.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:19 pm to BallHawk
You are terrible - go away with your bs trades 
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:56 am to SirWinston
Hey, in all fairness, I said it was terrible and unrealistic! I was goofing around.
I too think we are keeping Ryno and will either let Gordon walk this summer or make a trade with little to no return.
I too think we are keeping Ryno and will either let Gordon walk this summer or make a trade with little to no return.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:20 am to patendedgmf
Has so much whiteness as that ever been involved in a single trade?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:32 pm to patendedgmf
Giving up flame thrower is necessary? no thanks
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