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SF is still an issue...and other concerns
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:39 am
Please don't take this as a negative nancy thread. I don't want this to devolve into the usual suspects shitting all over the team and certain Turkish players. Just looking to generate discussion into what concerns you going into the season.
Watching last night's game , it struck me again. How do we still not have a starting SF on this team? Its been an issue for a long time and its still an issue. Yes I know we will roll out QPon out there when he's healthy (although I kind of think of him as a SG/SF tweener), and Reke will play there some, Cunningham etc. But watching Dante start there was kind of painful. I like Dante, but as a backup and defensive player.
The shooting has been kind of rough so far as well outside of AD. I think once QPon, Ajinca, and EG are in there it will be a lot better, but its still been a bit bad. But hey...preseason.
I haven't seen as crisp of ball movement as I expected.
Also, the Defense, I really need to see a lot more to get a feel for it. Seems kind of lackadaisical out there so far.
This team needs Asik and Ajinca. That was really apparent last night.
Having now actually seen a preseason game, what are your concerns?
Watching last night's game , it struck me again. How do we still not have a starting SF on this team? Its been an issue for a long time and its still an issue. Yes I know we will roll out QPon out there when he's healthy (although I kind of think of him as a SG/SF tweener), and Reke will play there some, Cunningham etc. But watching Dante start there was kind of painful. I like Dante, but as a backup and defensive player.
The shooting has been kind of rough so far as well outside of AD. I think once QPon, Ajinca, and EG are in there it will be a lot better, but its still been a bit bad. But hey...preseason.
I haven't seen as crisp of ball movement as I expected.
Also, the Defense, I really need to see a lot more to get a feel for it. Seems kind of lackadaisical out there so far.
This team needs Asik and Ajinca. That was really apparent last night.
Having now actually seen a preseason game, what are your concerns?
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:54 am to Fun Bunch
Need to be healthy and hit the 3 ball. Everything else will work out.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:55 am to Fun Bunch
Really hard to assess with how many players were out. As long as Douglas Roberts and Perkins barely see the floor we should be good.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:56 am to Fun Bunch
The only concerns I really have Is sf until qpon returns and also center. We need to get healthy.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:57 am to Fun Bunch
My concern is us starting the season unhealthy with a new coach. It's not the best combination. Hopefully guys step up and if not, hopefully we have the fortitude to overcome a poor start.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:59 am to Fun Bunch
I would have loved Aminu - he made great strides under a good coach and dude can FLY and JUMP off the damn camera. He, a healthy Jrue, and AD would have been sick to watch in Gentry's system.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:07 am to Fun Bunch
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How do we still not have a starting SF on this team?
2 way large wing players are hard to come by. Probably the easiest to acquire SFs will be Batum next offseason. And even that won't be easy because there will be so much money chasing so few players. I would imagine he'll have multiple max offers to choose from. Do you give up Ryno and Gordon to throw the max at Batum? (You probably lose Cole too). Yes a 2 way starting SF would be nice, but it won't be cheap.
corndeaux has said in the past that we need to develop/find our own PJ Tucker, and that might be the most likely to pay off route.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:13 am to TigerinATL
Or just hire coaches who don't suck and can get the most out of guys like Aminu. He would have fit in perfectly on this team but Montyball was horrendous for his skillset.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:18 am to SirWinston
Aminu is terrible, the good does not outweigh the bad.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:25 am to SirWinston
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Or just hire coaches who don't suck and can get the most out of guys like Aminu. He would have fit in perfectly on this team but Montyball was horrendous for his skillset.
I still think Portland made a mistake giving Aminu all that money, but Trevor Ariza made the journey from bad 3 point shooter to good enough 3 point shooter after 9 years in the league. I wouldn't be completely shocked if by the end of Aminu's contract he's picked up enough offensive skills to become a balanced enough player to be worth his contract. But there's a reason guys like that bounce around the league, nobody can wait that long for a guy to become good enough.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:41 am to TigerinATL
Qpon may not be flashy or have prototypical size for a SF, but he fits in well with the starting lineup. We already have good size with Jrue, AD and Asik in that lineup. Qpon is a nice player that can space the floor and plays smart D. He can easily play 25 minutes at the 3 for us every night and the other minutes can be distributed to Tyreke, Dante, Gee and Babbitt depending on matchups.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 3:44 pm to SirWinston
quote:
Or just hire coaches who don't suck and can get the most out of guys like Aminu
The most out of Aminu isn't good enough to start for any team. Quit bringing his garbage arse up.
Our team is fine. Our biggest issue is health. If we stay healthy, Asik plays with some intensity and hits over 58% from the field (the field for him is less than 3 feet from the basket), and we get consistency from EG and Ryno's shooting, we are going to be just fine.
Health is the biggest issue and/or concern.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
Aminu was pretty easily better than both Pondexter and Cunningham last season.
PER
WS
BPM
VORP
You name it, ALL easily favor Al...
PER
WS
BPM
VORP
You name it, ALL easily favor Al...
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
I bet he was a better spot up shooter, too.
It's too hard to compare role players in different systems. He wasn't asked to do in Dallas what he would have been asked to do here.
It's too hard to compare role players in different systems. He wasn't asked to do in Dallas what he would have been asked to do here.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:13 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Aminu was pretty easily better than both Pondexter and Cunningham last season.
PER
WS
BPM
VORP
I'll take Pondexter and Cunningham everyday of the week over Aminu.
Aminu's main job when he was here was to be athletic and play good defense, and he sucked royally at both.
I've yet to see a game where i said "Dante looked like he didn't want to play tonite" It was common to say "Aminu looked like he would have rathered sat in Africa tonite than play a basketball game for money"
He sucks. He's been on 4 teams in 6 years. He's become worst in several different categories. He's a liability on offense, and his defense and effort isn't good enough to make up for the moonballs he throws up on the other side of the court.
Aminu took 134 three's last year. You know what the defense said for each of those 134 possessions? "good D guys!"
QPon took 171 threes for us last year. You know what the defense said when he took those shots? "shite"
I'll take the guy that shot 43.3% from 3 over the guy shooting 27%. It's hard to have spacing on offense when a terrible offensive player like Aminu is in the game.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:16 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
He wasn't asked to do in Dallas what he would have been asked to do here.
We asked him to do what QPon is doing now, and he did it much worse than what QPon is doing now.
And i don't like QPon starting either, but he's a much much much better option than Aminu for a starting SF.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
Since we're going off what we saw and disregarding the numbers that say aminu was better and it wasn't even close . In the Dallas games I watched last year I saw aminu as a guy who could have a real impact on the game. Rebounding. Blocking shots. Getting out in transition. As opposed to Cunningham and pondexter who at best are just 'guys on the court' sporting their single digit PERs.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:23 pm to Boomshockalocka
Aminu wouldn't have put up those numbers in New Orleans though so it doesn't really matter
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:50 pm to Boomshockalocka
So PER is now a useful tool in specific scenarios. Gotcha.
Ignoring things like ts% and 3pt%
Ignoring things like ts% and 3pt%
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:02 pm to htran90
Dud. It ain't just PER.. It's every metric imaginable. And it ain't close.
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