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re: Saints Fire 2 Team Doctors

Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115494 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:44 pm to
Multiple former Saints and Pels are going hard at them on social media apparently.
Posted by bayouboy318
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
377 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:53 pm to
My only question would be, who was the idiot that hired the same doctors for two completely different sports? Basketball injuries and football injuries are completely different! Benson needs to open up that checkbook and hire separate medical staffs if he wants to keep the players healthy.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:58 pm to
East and West Jefferson are arguably better hospitals at this point. Too bad they can't be sponsors, but couldn't the team still keep one of their doctors on retainer for second opinions?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94847 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
Gentleman Jack apparently posted a Tweet laughing his arse off after this was made public.

I'm guessing he didn't have a good experience on his return to the team last season.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6742 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
Where the tweets at man?

What is being said?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

East and West Jefferson are arguably better hospitals at this point. Too bad they can't be sponsors, but couldn't the team still keep one of their doctors on retainer for second opinions?


Many people will say it, ochsner may be the largest but they are not the best.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38651 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:53 pm to
I think pondexter is the smoking gun on the pels side, not so much Gordon or holiday or Evans. All 3 of those guys either were hurt when they came here or had an injury history

pondexter fricking drops off the face of the earth for 2 years, without even a sighting or a mention...just ghosted. clearly there's weird doings afoot there and I hope we get the real story at some point
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115494 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

pondexter fricking drops off the face of the earth for 2 years, without even a sighting or a mention...just ghosted. clearly there's weird doings afoot there and I hope we get the real story at some point


Kushner has indicated several times that he knows the story or at least part of it and it is a long and crazy saga...but he thinks QPon should be the one to talk about it not him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Scott Kushner? @ScottDKushner 7 minutes ago

Source: The #Saints decision to fire Dr. Misty Suri does not indicate an action taken by the #Pelicans. No formal decision reached.

Suri was recently promoted to #Pelicans director of medical services, and most sources said he is well regarded in the organization.

The takeaway is Sean Payton's decision regarding medical staff doesn't necessarily affect what the #Pelicans will do.


quote:

Will Guillory? @WillGuillory 2 minutes ago

Clarification on my tweets from earlier: Deryk Jones never worked with the #Pelicans, but Misty Suri started working with the team last year



So the doctor that Keenan Lewis said was a problem, Deryk Jones, never worked with the Pels. The doctor that worked his way through med school as a stripper, Misty Suri, is relatively new. Since he was promoted in the last year I think we can assume that the doctor who had presided over a terrible 2 year injury marred stretch was different and has also been removed. I don' think last year's positive injury results were just reverting to the mean after 2 really bad years. They XRayed AD every time someone looked at him funny and it seemed to help keep him on the court.

I'm not saying it's all good, but we really don't have any evidence saying Suri is part of the problem if they do let him stay.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:16 pm to
The way I read Keenan's tweet was that Suri should NOT be lumped in with Jones. I took that Keenan actually respected him otherwise why would he include Suri in a positive light in the tweet
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:25 pm to
That's what he said. Sorry if I wasn't being clear, I edited what I wrote for clarification.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:13 pm to
In 2015-16, the year before Misty Suri was a Pelicans physician, the Pelicans medical and training staff was:

Scott Montgomery, MD - Head team physician.



Matthew McQueen, MD:



Duane Brooks, head athletic trainer:


Todd Hooks, assistant athletic trainer:


Jared Lewis, physical therapist:
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2082 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:19 pm to
There are most likely two different contracts. The corporate sponsorahip contract requires Ochsner pay the Pelicans/Saints. The medical staff contract is different and probably works like every other team hiring medical staff, the team's pay the system or providers. Payton has alluded to this much by saying there is no requirement for the team to use Ochsner doctors. BUT because it would look terrible to Ochsner to have the team choose other docs, it's likely the Saints/Pelicans paid little to nothing for the med staff and Ochsner takes the hit and pays the docs directly.

But now that's exactly what will happen, the team is likely to look outside for doctors. Payton will correctly defend the team and refuse Ochsner orthopedists. Ochsner will do everything it can to try and prevent this, maybe including making a showing of firing the doctors and releasing a statement on Ochsner's commitments to blah blah blah blah.

So there's better understanding of how the hiring of medical staff goes, the team of course wants the best doctors but can only hire whoever wants to work for the team. Sometimes, a team's first choice of doctor will refuse because of the commitments the team requires. These commitments may include, for example, being on site at home games. To you and me, this might sound great to have a first hand view at every game, but this can put a strain in the doctor's lifestyle to have to work games. At least this is how it was explained to me by a doctor who declined a team's offer. This means that the fired docs may not have been the team's first choices. Ultimately this should reflect worse on the individual doctors than Ochsner.



Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:41 pm to
The amount of embarrassing bullshite thats gone on within the Saints/Pelicans organization over the past decade, miraculously wrapped around a Superbowl win, is unbelievable.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:45 pm to
You think that's crazy, just wait until AD/DC kills Small Ball on the way to a title with Demps/Gentry at the helm.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 5:01 pm to
fingers crossed

Between LSU football, Saints, and Pelicans, watching Anthony Davis has been the only thing preserving my sports sanity.

Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 5:05 pm to
Keenan Lewis right now on WWL very rationally and succinctly ethering the Saints.

On top of everything we know, a degenerating hip as a result of mistreatment. Hospitalization from a staph infection that wasn't caught. Payton trying to force him on the field with an injury that clearly wasn't healed, and still isn't. etc etc etc


Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 5:34 pm to
Missed Eric Gordon
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 5:41 pm to
This is the one of the only times I'm glad the Saints and Pels have the same ownership


I hope they go to Atlanta
Posted by Saint1032
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2014
235 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:17 pm to
Pels keeping Misty what a joke.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 7:18 pm
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