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re: NBA Draft News
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:25 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:25 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:he’s too talented. I’m 100% keeping him. Scoot/Sharpe backcourt with Trey at the 3 would be absurd. Acquire both of those guys, worry about everything else later. Tbh I’d imagine we’d give up both Herb and Zion to get Portland to say yes.
Just curious do you keep Sharpe or flip him? Seems like we would have an abundance of guards. Also any trade for Zion will likely bring back Simons too right for salary purposes?
Scoot/Jose
CJ/Sharpe
Trey/Dyson
BI/Nance/EJ
JV (or new center)
Plus you have the 14th pick
Think that’s a roster that can win games now and win games for many years to come. Fans will come to games to watch these guys play.
As far as simons goes, you’ll probably get a third team and reroute simons there. Whether it’s Charlotte or another team.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 4:41 pm
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:35 pm to Macintosh504
I would send them Ingram, Herb, Naji and 14 for Sharpe, Simons and 3. Seems like fair value.
I only do this if i know i can get Scoot though. A new starting 5 of Scoot, CJ, Trey, Zion, Jonas with Jose, Simons, Sharpe, Nance, Willy, Dyson coming off the bench would be elite. You have everything from rebounding to shooting around Zion.
I only do this if i know i can get Scoot though. A new starting 5 of Scoot, CJ, Trey, Zion, Jonas with Jose, Simons, Sharpe, Nance, Willy, Dyson coming off the bench would be elite. You have everything from rebounding to shooting around Zion.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:41 pm to Soggymoss
I rather trade Dyson than Herb personally. Herb is just so flexible defensively and has DPOY potential plus Herb could be invaluable come playoff time.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:43 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
I would send them Ingram, Herb, Naji and 14 for Sharpe, Simons and 3. Seems like fair value.
Man talk about immediately lowering your basketball IQ.
Sharpe and Simons are idiots. No way, I'm giving up Herb and BI for those clowns.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:43 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:
That kid has IT.
He may have IT but he has no IQ
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:43 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:I get that I just think Portland would be more accepting to giving up sharpe if they can get a known player in Herb. Especially with the report that Dame doesn’t want to play with young developing guys anymore
I rather trade Dyson than Herb personally. Herb is just so flexible defensively and has DPOY potential plus Herb could be invaluable come playoff time.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:45 pm to ghost2most
quote:bit unfair to say he has no bball iq when he didn’t even play organized ball the year before joining the nba. I take the stats of the last 10 games of the season with a grain of salt usually but Sharpe was putting up BI numbers when Portland benched all their main guys.
He may have IT but he has no IQ
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:54 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
This is interesting. If he's receiving a green room invite good chance he's going higher than projected.
25 prospects have received green room invites, fwiw
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:58 pm to ghost2most
quote:
Simons
Simons could always be re-routed for another player. Simons and 3 to Charlotte for Hayward and 2 for example. You still get shooting with Hayward plus the advantage of an expiring max contract that you can flip at the deadline if someone you really want comes available like a Bam, Bridges etc
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:01 pm to ghost2most
There were a lot of pre draft rumors about Sharpe
But let’s be fair, none of the negative ones really came to fruition in year 1.
He’s much more advanced than people gave him credit for, he tries on defense and is actually a legitimate nuisance bc of his insane athletic ability, and there were no off court issues. He also stayed reasonably healthy.
But let’s be fair, none of the negative ones really came to fruition in year 1.
He’s much more advanced than people gave him credit for, he tries on defense and is actually a legitimate nuisance bc of his insane athletic ability, and there were no off court issues. He also stayed reasonably healthy.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:04 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Zion, Kira, Cody Martin to Por
3, Simons, Little to Char
2, 27, Hayward, Sharpe to Nola
3, Simons, Little to Char
2, 27, Hayward, Sharpe to Nola
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:04 pm to Macintosh504
Sharpe is also reportedly 6'8 now.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:07 pm to BallHawk
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2, 27, Hayward, Sharpe to Nola
Not enough for me to trade a generational talent like Zion
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:21 pm to Soggymoss
What more do you want in that deal? You get Scoot, a contract you can flip in Hayward, another pick, and Sharpe.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:24 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
Not enough for me to trade a generational talent like Zion
Zion can't be a generational talent if he isn't on the floor.
Scoot, Sharpe, Hayward, and a late first is a fantastic return for Zion. I would jump all over that in a heartbeat.
If Zion goes on to play 75 games for the next decade then so be it.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:28 pm to BallHawk
A Zion deal to Portland for me would have to look more along the lines of Scoot, Sharpe and 3 additional future 1sts.
Using your framework though I would do:
Pels: Scoot, Sharpe, Hayward, Williams, 25 and 27 1sts
Blazers: Zion, Herb
Hornets: Simons, Naji, #3, another 1st from Blazers
Zion is a once in a generation talent, that doesn’t and shouldn’t come cheap regardless of injury history, which is reason #367 why i would prefer to trade Ingram because his value is a bit more realistic to do a trade.
Using your framework though I would do:
Pels: Scoot, Sharpe, Hayward, Williams, 25 and 27 1sts
Blazers: Zion, Herb
Hornets: Simons, Naji, #3, another 1st from Blazers
Zion is a once in a generation talent, that doesn’t and shouldn’t come cheap regardless of injury history, which is reason #367 why i would prefer to trade Ingram because his value is a bit more realistic to do a trade.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:30 pm to CP3forMVP
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Scoot, Sharpe, Hayward, and a late first is a fantastic return for Zion. I would jump all over that in a heartbeat.
I assume you would also sell a Lambo for $25,000 because you don’t want to fix the transmission in it right?
Never sell for less than a players full worth, that’s how you get fired and how you lose a fan base. What you propose is a good trade for a fringe all star like BI, not a MVP level talent like Zion.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:46 pm to Soggymoss
That’s just it. That is Zion’s value right now. You run the risk of tanking it even more if you have another season like the last two. At some point a guy is who he is. Sure it could go the other way but the odds aren’t in that favor.
Scoot is that good. Read the recent article about how discusses his body and how he understands what needs to be done. He’s already thinking like a 10yr vet. How can you not want that?
Scoot is that good. Read the recent article about how discusses his body and how he understands what needs to be done. He’s already thinking like a 10yr vet. How can you not want that?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:48 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
I assume you would also sell a Lambo for $25,000 because you don’t want to fix the transmission in it right?
That depends, sounds like you’re assuming the transmission is fixable. I’m working off the assumption that it’s not.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 5:49 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:tbh I don’t buy that but if so do the damn deal
Sharpe is also reportedly 6'8 now.
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