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JVG/Mark Jackson on Gentry

Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:24 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:24 pm
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Q. Mark, what do you think about having Gentry’s impact with Golden State? Did you feel that pace was a problem and do you think that that’s the trend going on in the NBA, particularly in the Western Conference, that you have to play fast? And do you think that’s what’s going on, obviously, with Golden State? But how much do you think he’s made an impact being the lead assistant there at Golden State?

JACKSON: Well, let me just try to answer it different ways, and then you page through it whatever way you want. Jeff has talked about it already. Monty Williams doesn’t get enough credit for the job he did in New Orleans. When you think about making the playoffs, there are so many key players, valuable players missing a huge amount of the season, keeping that team tied together and competing on a nightly basis and then making it to the playoffs, valuable experience.

As far as Alvin Gentry, proven coach, knows the game, has been successful. And this is a Warriors team that they played with pace before. They’ve had a great season. And that staff has done an outstanding job and is being rewarded. I wish them nothing but the very best.

But what I will say is you can’t take away what Monty Williams has been able to do to that New Orleans team. Sometimes you try to make changes too fast, and it can hurt you in the long run. You don’t appreciate what a masterful job he did during the course of the year. But I’m sure Alvin Gentry is an outstanding coach, outstanding offensive mind, and he’s going to do a very good job in New Orleans.

Q. Jeff, what is your reaction. You were a finalist for the job in New Orleans, and they went in another direction. Was input any factor, or can you comment on anything publicly about what your thoughts were and the job and what made you have interest to pursue it, the Pelicans opening?

VAN GUNDY: There’s only 30 jobs, and my interest was twofold, basically, was, obviously, going back to what Mark said, Monty Williams had done such an incredible job establishing a foundation and a culture. Think about what that organisation had been through -- the forced trade of Chris Paul, the injury to Eric Gordon, the injuries to Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, all that along the way. So they have a good year in Monty’s first year. They’re forced to trade Chris Paul. They build it back up.

Listen, most times when you get a job in the NBA for whatever reason, there’s been a lot of losing that has gone on, and there’s been a lot of bad habits that need to be corrected. That’s usually not just a coaching issue, that’s a roster issue. In New Orleans’ case, the foundation is so solid because of the job that Monty has done, that Anthony Davis, his greatness, but also his character, and I think Dell Demps has done a good job of building the roster.

So the hiring of Alvin Gentry is a really, really good hire because what you need to succeed in the NBA today goes beyond having a really good coach. You have to be a really good coach that ownership and management believe in and support, and not support only when you’re winning but when you go through some difficult times. So I think the belief by ownership and management is sincere, and it’s squarely behind the vision that Alvin has for his team going forward, and I think he’s, like Mark said, just people are talking about his record.

Let me just say this. Your record is usually reflective of your roster, and if you’ve got good players, you’re going to win, and if you’ve got bad players, you’re going to lose. He had bad teams and bad players in his first stop, and I thought he got the most out of them. Then with Phoenix, I thought he squeezed everything out of Phoenix with Steve Nash, the Hall of Fame guard.

Now he’s getting another Hall of Fame player in Anthony Davis, and I think he’s going to do a terrific job, and I think the fans of New Orleans should be very, very excited about their star player and their head coach.


JVG on point imo
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:26 pm to
both are on point. mark isn't wrong, that's for sure. but he's speaking from a hurt place, so it's ok.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:36 pm to
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and if you’ve got good players, you’re going to win, and if you’ve got bad players, you’re going to lose.
I could see this kinda nonchalant attitude that JVG has really rubbing management the wrong way in an interview. Could play a part in why they went with Gentry.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:46 pm to
Probably

I'm really impressed with his staff thus far as well.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:49 pm to
I don't disagree with jvg here, but he seemingly never places fault on coaches for anything. He'd prob blast the lakers if they canned Byron Scott tomorrow.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:51 pm to
that's announcer speak
you can tell the truth when you are not interviewing for a job
that's why those jobs at espn and TNT are so covete

you can believe he told demps and benson that he could do better than Monty did
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:17 pm to
That's part of the reason that I was initially down on JVG. If you listen to the Lowe post with him he really down played the importance of coaching.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:39 pm to
I think they are right in that Monty doesn't get enough credit in what he has done in the past few years, with improvement each year.

The issue is, that is looking at it in such a narrow-minded viewpoint. You have to look at the good, which he has done well this year against good teams. But then you have to look at the collapses against Portland, SA, Golden State, Boston, etc. in the regular season. Then getting beat by inferior teams with a ~20 game W-L-W-L pattern spells inconsistency in coaching. Ultimately getting to the playoffs, and being competitive against arguably the best team in the league, yet losing two of those games due to massive collapses in coaching error.

He got a lot out of the players, but his coaching also left a lot off the court that could have resulted in a lot of wins as opposed to head-scratching losses
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:57 pm to
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He got a lot out of the players, but his coaching also left a lot off the court that could have resulted in a lot of wins as opposed to head-scratching losses


I really felt Monty's coaching was holding them back. The team has a lot of talent, and it was like every game you knew he was going to make some guge negative impact by benching a hot player, making stupid mass line up substitutions, or not taking the timeout to stop a big run by the opposing team. I also thought he did a horrible job with ball management as far as in game adjustment of the offense to help players struggling.

I think Jackson answered the way he did because of the way it ended for him in Golden State. i think Van Gundy answered the way he did about Monty so as not to burn bridges.

I mean David Wesley was basically calling out Monty's stupidity every game with out saying his name.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:33 pm to
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both are on point. mark isn't wrong, that's for sure.


No, Monty was not "masterful" this season. For Jackson to say he was is ludicrous. Sure, he did a great job managing through the various injuries, and making that final push to the playoffs. But he was never "masterful." Mark Jackson is looking at the Pelicans that finished the regular season, but he's ignoring PTAO and the fact that this team, in about a one month stretch, lost to the Hornets, the Celtics (got swept by the C's this year), the 76ers, the Knicks (snapping a 16-game losing streak), the Nuggets, and the Jazz.

Then there's the fact that this team finished 22nd in defensive efficiency, despite the fact that Monty is a defensive coach, with Anthony Davis and Omer Asik at his disposal.

His in-game strategizing was suspect at best. His rotations at times were questionable. His players often didn't seem aware of in-game situations.

Bourbon Street Shots said the other day in their podcast that Monty just learned what defensive rating was this season.

Then Mark Jackson is going to basically say the Pelicans brass made a mistake by firing Monty? Honestly, prior to his firing, I had accepted that Monty was going to coach this team for at least one more season. But none of us on this board can sit there and say the Pels made a mistake by letting Monty go.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 10:34 pm
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:36 pm to
I'm excited
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:11 am to
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But none of us on this board can sit there and say the Pels made a mistake by letting Monty go.


And none of us can sit here and say that they made the right move, because none of us know what could have or will become.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:20 am to
Jackson didn't say they made a mistake
He said Monty deserves more credit which is one coach taking up for another

since he was immediately hired I'd say his reputation is intact
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:26 am to
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but he seemingly never places fault on coaches for anything
No former coach ever does. The quotes in the OP are very boring and predictable.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:33 am to
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Jackson didn't say they made a mistake


Maybe i'm misunderstanding Jackson then. What he said was, "Sometimes you try to make changes too fast, and it can hurt you in the long run. You don’t appreciate what a masterful job he did during the course of the year."

When he says "you," I take it to mean the Pels FO....meaning he believes the Pels were too quick to pull the plug on the Monty Project.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:40 am to
If you need a reason to never want to hire Mark Jackson as a HC of your basketball team its that he thinks Monty did a "masterful job".

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:42 am to
I don't think it's a coincidence that he hasn't been mentioned as interviewing for any of the open coaching vacancies this offseason. I don't think I've seen him legitimately linked to any vacancy since he was fired.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:15 am to
Jackson is the Tony Dungy of the NBA. Both took over struggling franchises and made them respectable taking them to the brink of a championship only to be replaced and have the team they built win the championship the next season.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:25 am to
They both also had a transcendent player on their teams.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:32 am to
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They both also had a transcendent player on their teams.


Derrick Brooks or Warren Sapp?
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