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re: Jeff Teague or Dennis Schroeder
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:37 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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Mozgov/Varejao for EG/Asik, sign Mozgov to new deal.
That trade doesn't work, we are sending out too much salary. Cleveland is not going to take back more salary since they are already in the luxury tax.
On top of that Varejao is one of Lebron's super pals. I doubt he will be traded. Plus I don't see the new additions learning the system and turning our season around quick enough to get us past the 7-8 seed. Then you are committing more money and still don't have another star to play with Davis.
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:09 pm to TeddyPadillac
Hawks have korver
Why would they want anderson
Why would they want anderson
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:16 pm to cgrand
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Hawks have korver
Why would they want anderson
The Hawks have Schroeder too, why would they want Anderson.
Kyle Korver and Ryno are not the same player just b/c they are both white and can shoot. They play two totally different positions.
They aren't taking Ryno to be a starter or anything, or even to finish games out. He's there on loan for this season, and is there to help the bench out come playoff time.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Kyle Korver and Ryno are not the same player just b/c they are both white and can shoot. They play two totally different positions.
they are both defensively challenged 3pt shooters with occasional post play. what positions they play means nothing, they have similar skills and game impact, though korver seems to be a better/more willing passer
i cannot imagine that the hawks would part with either teague or schroeder for anderson. if you feel differently, say so
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:41 pm to cgrand
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for EG/Asik, sign Mozgov to new deal.
Sign mozgov when the whole premise is to get out from under these lead footed traditional 7' ers
quote:
Hawks have korver Why would they want anderson
You mean they have Milsap, Horford, and Mike Scott
3 6'8"+ bigs who can do what Anderson does
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:43 pm to cgrand
I was thinking it might need to be a 3 way. But you have to figure that Teague is going to be a little undervalued if part of why they're moving him is a PG controversy and there are other teams like Detroit with Jennings and even the Pels with Tyreke that have similarly priced PG options available. A high gravity 3 point shooter that can drop 30+ on any given night is in lower supply than a starting caliber PG that teams want to move on from.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:51 pm to cgrand
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they are both defensively challenged 3pt shooters with occasional post play.
ok
Have you ever watched Kyle Korver play? there is no occasional post play and he is not defensively challenged despite being a white 3 point shooter. he may have not looked great on defense in the past, but since his arrival in Atlanta he's looked pretty good on defense, and is no where near a liability.
I don't think they need Ryno, but i know they are ok with letting Teague go, just not sure what they are wanting in return.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:55 pm to TigerinATL
You trade Tyreke and Gordon to BKN
BKN trades Rondae Hollis Jefferson to ATL
And Joe Johnson to Pels
ATL trades Schröder to Pels
Works salary wise and I think would be a good deal for all involved.
Edit: forgot to include Johnson, he's the salary matcher, yes I know how to do math
BKN trades Rondae Hollis Jefferson to ATL
And Joe Johnson to Pels
ATL trades Schröder to Pels
Works salary wise and I think would be a good deal for all involved.
Edit: forgot to include Johnson, he's the salary matcher, yes I know how to do math
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:02 pm to sma19
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You trade Tyreke and Gordon to BKN
BKN trades Rondae Hollis Jefferson to ATL
ATL trades Schröder to Pels
No thanks and that trade doesn't come anywhere close to working salary wise. Do you know how to add and subtract, or did you just assume your own made up salaries for everyone?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:04 pm to sma19
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:21 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No thanks and that trade doesn't come anywhere close to working salary wise. Do you know how to add and subtract, or did you just assume your own made up salaries for everyone?
I think he forgot to add Brook Lopez to Pelicans. Not that it makes it better. Just should make the salaries work.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:24 pm to NOFOX
Joe Johnson, not Lopez.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:28 pm to TigerinATL
I'll take Joe Johnson, but i'd rather Teague than Schroeder for EG/Reke. I'd be fine with either Teague or Schroeder, but to answer the OP question, I'd rather Teague.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:24 pm to TigerinATL
Can't see the Hawks moving Teague for Ryno. Pels would need a third team to get involved. I can't see Bud handing over the keys to Schroeder without a pick plus a young player in return. ATL has Bazemore and horford to take care of this offseason.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:48 pm to cgrand
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they are both defensively challenged 3pt shooters with occasional post play. what positions they play means nothing, they have similar skills and game impact, though korver seems to be a better/more willing passer
And Ryno is a much better rebounder. Dude creates a lot of second chances with his tip-outs.
More on point, they are not nearly as similar as you are implying.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:02 pm to Jester
I thought Schroeder was your cousin?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:09 pm to mjax57
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Can't see the Hawks moving Teague for Ryno. Pels would need a third team to get involved. I can't see Bud handing over the keys to Schroeder without a pick plus a young player in return. ATL has Bazemore and horford to take care of this offseason.
Pretty much
They are going to have about 15 suitors for either one of those guys. They are either going to maximize their return or roll with what they got. After all, they are the 3 seed and those guys have been together for awhile. Like you mentioned, they have to retain both Horford and Bazemore, who are going to cash in hard. This might be their last go round. They need a piece that will help them now and into the future (Schroder already brings this, really, plus an extension looms off his rookie deal).
I think Teague is Eric Gordon, and Schroder is Eric Bledsoe, thinking back to when LAC was making moves. Schroder is going to be very very good if he gets full reign
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:56 pm to GynoSandberg
Anderson is the leading scorer in the NBA off the bench this year. He's 6' 10'', 240lbs, and can create his own shot. He moves off the ball. He's shooting 40%ish from downtown and 87% from the line. He's an intelligent player. Ya'll can quit acting like he couldn't possibly get us anything meaningful back in a trade already. Y'all devalue the shite out of him cause you see him get abused by 5s so often having to play next to AD.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 5:10 pm to ShamelessPel
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Anderson is the leading scorer in the NBA off the bench this year.
He's 60th in total minutes in the NBA. There are 30 teams starting 5 guys each night. I mean, his numbers look good, but dont kid yourself into thinking he has a unique skillset.
And that isnt to say he couldnt bring us something decent back in return.
As for him going to ATL, they have 2 of the premier stretch bigs in the NBA.
They also have Mike Scott coming off the bench to do exactly what Anderson does.
Ryan Anderson isnt playing 30+ minutes as a key player on a winning team, Im sorry
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:00 pm to ShamelessPel
I'm not saying he doesn't have value. But why trade a young PG in Schroeder or a veteran that has a team friendly deal for a guy that will command a ton of money that the Hawks won't be able to pay and will walk. They don't have the luxury of renting Ryno
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