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re: In Season SF Targets
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:19 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:19 pm to Epic Cajun
Ryno adds another dimension. It would take a lot for me to consider breaking up the front court, even if we get to dump Gordon in the same trade. Something like Batum + bench depth for Ryno and Gordon would be hard to pass up, but I would still think twice. Our front court is dynamic, and letting Anderson join a front court like Aldridge and Rolo would be a mistake.
Nobody but Davis is untradeable, but the asking price for splitting up Davis/Anderson/Asik would be extremely high.
Nobody but Davis is untradeable, but the asking price for splitting up Davis/Anderson/Asik would be extremely high.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:22 pm to Spitting Venom
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Nobody but Davis is untradeable, but the asking price for splitting up Davis/Anderson/Asik would be extremely high.
One of the Bird Writes writers recently wrote that our front court is unsustainable long term because eventually you have too much money sitting on the bench in crunch time. But after seeing the Spurs need both Splitter and Diaw to step up in different series en route to the title, I don't see how anyone could be against breaking up what might be the best front court in the league.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:37 pm to TigerinATL
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But after seeing the Spurs need both Splitter and Diaw to step up in different series en route to the title, I don't see how anyone could be against breaking up what might be the best front court in the league.
Yeah, I don't think they should break it up either. If they resign Asik and Anderson to 8-10M extensions, then I think the front court should be set for awhile and not too expensive. Williams has spoke highly of the 3 man rotation and it seems to really work so far.
In regards to the Wolves and Brewer. I just don't know what the Wolves want in return. They are super loaded with young players. They are not going to contend this year, so I'm guessing they are just looking to shed salary. That would mean they want draft picks or expiring contracts. I don't know if Rivers is enough to pull in Brewer. But the Wolves need a guard. That would be tempting. Brewer could be a really good player in the right system..
Btw, how is that guy still under 200lbs at 6'9? I'm 8 inches shorter and got over 40lbs on that guy. That's just crazy..
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:37 pm to TigerinATL
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One of the Bird Writes writers recently wrote that our front court is unsustainable long term because eventually you have too much money sitting on the bench in crunch time. But after seeing the Spurs need both Splitter and Diaw to step up in different series en route to the title, I don't see how anyone could be against breaking up what might be the best front court in the league.
Yup, that playoff run was total team effort. Splitter was a horrible matchup in one, they went with Diaw. Vise versa.
Playoffs show a different dimension about matchups and if crunchtime requires me to sit a 8 or 10mil player to win game 7, so be it. At least they both got me there.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:42 pm to TigerinATL
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One of the Bird Writes writers recently wrote that our front court is unsustainable long term
It can be done...and most probably will be done. There's no question that there'll be a salary dump somewhere down the road, but that's going to affect the 1 and 2 positions (that's where we're lopsided).
Assuming EG plays it out, we'll be in a bind until 2016 but the cap increase will help.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:46 pm to TigerinATL
Just to point out, i wouldn't do the trade i proposed.
I would think they only way of getting anything from Minny is a trade like that.
I like Ryno, but i'm not sold on him having to be here, if, and only if, we get a legit scoring threat in return.
Jeff Green can be had. Difficult what we would give up to get him, considering Boston is littered with gaurds on their team. Wouldnt' give up Ryno for him, definetly Gordon though
I would think they only way of getting anything from Minny is a trade like that.
I like Ryno, but i'm not sold on him having to be here, if, and only if, we get a legit scoring threat in return.
Jeff Green can be had. Difficult what we would give up to get him, considering Boston is littered with gaurds on their team. Wouldnt' give up Ryno for him, definetly Gordon though
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On Jeff Green
Over the second half of last season, Green's defense wilted and his shooting percentages tumbled. But according to Lowe, the small forward would still be "easy to move" if the Celtics want.
Lowe mentioned a slew of teams -- New Orleans, Washington, Toronto, Atlanta, Detroit, Houston, New York and Denver -- as possible trade locations and indicated Green has "more fans across the league than you might expect."
That would be good news for the Celtics, who may not consider Green a building block for the future. His contract extends through the 2015-16 season, but the final year is a player option.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:51 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Jeff Green can be had
I saw the other day where Rondo says he wants to stay in Boston long term. If that's true then Green probably isn't on the market.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:53 pm to TigerinATL
why
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:57 pm to TigerinATL
I don't want to break up our front court, but at the same time I agree with TBW that it isn't ideal to have a 10-15 million dollar player sitting on your bench during crunch time...
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Jeff Green can be had. Difficult what we would give up to get him, considering Boston is littered with gaurds on their team. Wouldnt' give up Ryno for him,]definetly Gordon though
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
Isn't Jeff Green a PF? I know he played it at OKC. I thought Boston was shopping cause of the emergence of Sullinger and Olynk..
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:02 pm to brmark70816
No
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:16 pm to brmark70816
He can play either, but is more of a SF than a PF.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:19 pm to Epic Cajun
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He can play either, but is more of a SF than a PF.
In no universe is Jeff Green a PF, i dont care what stat anyone has.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:20 pm to Domingo Ayala
Yeah, I looked it up and it seems he has flip flopped in-between positions. There is actually a big debate about whether he should play SF or PF. Here is an article where two guys are arguing for or against moving him to PF full time (LINK )
One point to stood out to me was..
"Green also looks more comfortable playing power forward. You look at his career and his best seasons have come with him playing primarily power forward. And it's hard to put too much stock in the 16.9 points per game he averaged last season when you consider there really were no other scoring threats around."
That's a big gamble, especially if he going to be getting a near max level contract..
One point to stood out to me was..
"Green also looks more comfortable playing power forward. You look at his career and his best seasons have come with him playing primarily power forward. And it's hard to put too much stock in the 16.9 points per game he averaged last season when you consider there really were no other scoring threats around."
That's a big gamble, especially if he going to be getting a near max level contract..
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:32 pm to brmark70816
I think most teams that would be interested in him would be playing him at the 3.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:37 pm to Epic Cajun
Fair enough..
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:49 pm to brmark70816
Gordon for Kenneth faried and start tyreke at the 2. Nuggets don't like him according to reports, my life would be complete if we could somehow make that happen. And yes I know there is not a shot in hell but wishful thinking.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:56 pm to Peliclown
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Gordon for Kenneth faried and start tyreke at the 2
That'd be very redundant
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:08 pm to LosLobos111
Yeah, and no way would Denver do that.
Looking around at ways to get a SF and get rid of Gordon, I wonder if (assuming they keep playing horribly) Denver would be down for an Afflalo/Gallo for EG trade. It saves Denver $7.5m over two years, and right now, Gallo's contract isn't much better than Gordon's. I guess it depends on whether they think they can dump Afflalo without taking salary back, or if they think he opts out of his contract next season (in which case there's no way they would do it).
Looking around at ways to get a SF and get rid of Gordon, I wonder if (assuming they keep playing horribly) Denver would be down for an Afflalo/Gallo for EG trade. It saves Denver $7.5m over two years, and right now, Gallo's contract isn't much better than Gordon's. I guess it depends on whether they think they can dump Afflalo without taking salary back, or if they think he opts out of his contract next season (in which case there's no way they would do it).
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