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If Davis Doesn't Sign Extension Immediately

Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:28 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:28 am
I don't think there's any reason to panic. He will have until Oct. 31 to sign, as I understand it. I think it's likely that he waits a little while, but there's no doubt he sill sign (probably with a final year early termination option). There have been other players who have waited at least a few weeks before signing the extension. As BBS pointed out in a recent article, Paul George didn't sign until late September. So, prepare yourselves for a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth on the board until AD signs.

BTW, I need a CBA guru to clarify something for me. I was having this discussion with someone the other day. The AD "designated player" extension and its 30% of cap provision will take into account the anticipated salary cap increase, will it not? In other words, it could "kick in" using the new numbers. Is that correct or incorrect.

TIA
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:34 am to
That is correct. For a detailed article, here is one from about 10 months ago with all the facts and figures

LINK
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 8:35 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61482 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:37 am to
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In other words, it could "kick in" using the new numbers. Is that correct or incorrect.


Yes, when AD signs an extension this summer, it won't kick in until the next season. He'll make a mere $7 million this season.

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If Davis Doesn't Sign Extension Immediately


The difference between signing and not signing is so drastic from Davis' perspective, it isn't even a consideration that he wouldn't sign. The only thing that really is in question is the structure of the contract like Player Option Years.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:43 am to
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Yes, when AD signs an extension this summer, it won't kick in until the next season. He'll make a mere $7 million this season.


My heart really aches for the young man.

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The difference between signing and not signing is so drastic from Davis' perspective, it isn't even a consideration that he wouldn't sign. The only thing that really is in question is the structure of the contract like Player Option Years.


I cand accuratley predict 3 things:
1. Davis will sign
2. The Pelitards will freakout when he doesn't sign within the 1st 30 seconds.
3. Those same Pelitards will start calling him greedy or calling for a restrucuturing of his contract within 6 months.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3248 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:49 am to
Csb
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63492 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:59 am to
Thanks for your contribution.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8240 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:05 am to
I will freak a bit if he doesn't sign right away. Not proud of it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115737 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:15 am to
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3. Those same Pelitards will start calling him greedy or calling for a restrucuturing of his contract within 6 months.




It really is amazing, the second any guy gets paid, Tigerdroppings collectively decides to shite all over a guy at every chance. Saints talk is particularly bad about this.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5872 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:19 am to
I'll freak out if he adds player options in years 4 and 5.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63492 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:33 am to
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I'll freak out if he adds player options in years 4 and 5.




I'm pretty sure there will be at least one. That seems to be standard.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:37 am to
I would honestly be fairly surprised if he signs it sooner rather than later. He's got plenty of time to make his decision. I won't fault him for taking the time that he is given.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:39 am to
Per the rules of the 5 year designated contract, he can only add an option year in the 5th year. This has been the norm lately, so I would fully expect Davis or anybody else to do it when signing their designated contract
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:41 am to
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I'm pretty sure there will be at least one


Yup. Especially with the very real possibility of a new CBA and a change to max salaries coming in 2017. I bet he'll push for a year 3 ETO (if that's possible on a 5 year deal?). ETA- RTR answered it

End of the day, the Pels will be able to offer considerably more money than anyone else. Just have to hope he feels he can win in NO whenever he's up for a new contract.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 9:42 am
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:44 am to
Here is the rule in the CBA

Any player who receives a starting salary of greater than 25% of the Salary Cap* pursuant to the 30% Max Criteria rules must sign for a minimum of 4 years excluding any option year (4 new years in the case of a Rookie Scale Extension).

So again, no need to worry people (though, I don't know why I keep saying this) - the new contract will be for four NEW years. Which, when you add it to this year means the Pels will have 5 years to show AD they are a championship franchise.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166246 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:54 am to
I'd like to know one thing, what is his max earning here in Nola over the 4-5 yr period and max earning if he didn't sign it and tried to go somewhere else as soon as possible?
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:11 am to
So, the most he could earn over the next 5 years (after this one) if he went elsewhere would be about $116 million.

So, he would make about 27 million less. He would have to sign the QO next summer, which would be for 9.1 million - so that is about 17 mil less right there.

Plus, he would have to wait two years to get his guaranteed money, and anything can happen in those two years.

Basically, he would have to risk his body for 2 years just for the chance to make about 30 million less.

It's why I keep saying DONT WORRY
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:17 am to
quote:

I'd like to know one thing, what is his max earning here in Nola over the 4-5 yr period and max earning if he didn't sign it and tried to go somewhere else as soon as possible?



I forget exactly the number but it's 25-30 million. He'd lose the guaranteed 5th year and teams can only offer him a 4.5% raise each year whereas we can offer him a 7% raise each year.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61482 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:18 am to
Can he get the 30% Rose Rule from any team, or just as part of a designated extension? There's still the year of injury risk, but the cap jumping to $108 evens out the total money quite a bit if other teams can give him 30%.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:24 am to
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Basically, he would have to risk his body for 2 years just for the chance to make about 30 million less.
gonna sig quote this for the MSB tards who claim he gone
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:25 am to
I thought the Rose Rule (and restricted free agency) allowed for 30% of cap plus 7.5% raises every season, but I keep seeing 140 mil as the 5 year number. Wouldn't the actual number be closer to 155 mil?
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 10:33 am
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