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re: Greg Monroe rumor
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:12 pm to VOR
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:12 pm to VOR
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Honestly, I really believe a talented, versatile 3 should be our primary goal. I mean, I wouldn't turn down a good deal involving a 5/4, but I think a SF that is a legit scorer (even our no. 3 option) and can provide lock down D is the thing that we need. I'm banking on development from Withey and, yes Anjinca, plus one more big, dependable body (solid player, no superstar) for rebounding and defense.
All of this
Centers not named Duncan, shaq or Olajuwan don't win championships. Put your money in the 2,3 and 4.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:12 pm to TigerinATL
Damn I didn't think they could get any dumber, now they want to ship off Monroe for Eric Gordon. Next thing you know they'll give away Drummond for a 2nd RD pick. Does their management watch basketball?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:38 am to VOR
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I really believe a talented, versatile 3 should be our primary goal.
I think our primary goal should be getting rid of Gordon's contract.
If we traded him for a guy like Monroe, we could flip Monroe more easily for a quality 3 or 5. (Ex. Monroe for Asik or Monroe. Or Monroe for Hayward, Jeff Green or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist)
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:41 am to Suntiger
MKG is too much of an offensive liability to work in our lineup.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:51 am to VOR
Great post. Agree with it all.
It shouldn't be that hard to find a wing who can hit the open 3s Evans, Davis, Holiday, et al will provide and focus on defense.
It shouldn't be that hard to find a wing who can hit the open 3s Evans, Davis, Holiday, et al will provide and focus on defense.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:19 pm to danman6336
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do we REALLY want to trade for an offensive minded 4
Monroe is a Center.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:22 pm to Suntiger
agree
convincing gordon to opt out of his player option and getting his contract off the books before 2015 is goal #1...whatever it takes
i would be fine with sending him out for a draft pick (any draft pick) to a team with cap space. getting an actual NBA player back would be gravy
convincing gordon to opt out of his player option and getting his contract off the books before 2015 is goal #1...whatever it takes
i would be fine with sending him out for a draft pick (any draft pick) to a team with cap space. getting an actual NBA player back would be gravy
Posted on 5/20/14 at 1:43 pm to danman6336
I'm not saying Monty can pull it off, but with AD, Monroe, and Holiday we could conceivably run the Triangle offense. Two long bigs who are both good passers and skilled offensively? Are you kidding me? just wet dreaming over here...
Posted on 5/20/14 at 1:45 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Centers not named Duncan, shaq or Olajuwon* don't win championships.
That's like 10 of the last 30 championships though...
Posted on 5/20/14 at 1:59 pm to NOLAbaby
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The Pistons will get a better deal than Gordon.
Teams don't let go of young talented bigs for sgs with injury and attitude concerns.
There is a reason why everyone on this board would love that move, and every Pistons fan would absolutely hate it.
Teams don't let go of young talented bigs for sgs with injury and attitude concerns.
There is a reason why everyone on this board would love that move, and every Pistons fan would absolutely hate it.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:02 pm to NOLAbaby
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That's like 10 of the last 30 championships though...
They are also first ballot hall of famers, who also had first ballot hall of famers on their team as well, Robinson/Parker, Kobe/Dwade, Drexler
I don't think anyone thinks Embiid will become any of those 3, and it would take being one of those 3 to win championships as the best player on your team playing center.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:15 pm to LSU Piston
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The Pistons will get a better deal than Gordon.
Teams don't let go of young talented bigs for sgs with injury and attitude concerns.
We know that! Stop stomping on our offseason trade dreams. It's all we got!!!
Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:17 pm to LSU Piston
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The Pistons will get a better deal than Gordon.
If they choose to hold onto him and trade him later I agree. However, Monroe can choose which teams he'd go to in a S&T and if the Piston's match his offer sheet, he'd have veto power for the next year. I doubt his position is NOLA or bust, but if SVG wants to clean house and put his system/culture in place asap and Monroe isn't part of that, he may have to sell low. If teams won't line up to overpay Monroe, you might be surprised at what happens.
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Teams don't let go of young talented bigs for sgs with injury and attitude concerns.
True, but since y'all are stuck with Smith, you almost HAVE to move Monroe for shooters and creators. I saw some stats floating around another message board suggesting that Josh Smith is essentially a trigger happy, irrationally confident Al Farouq Aminu
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:03 pm to TigerinATL
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I doubt his position is NOLA or bust,
There has been no indication that Monroe even wants to play in NOLA. Of course he would love to play with AD. Even Lebron would say so, if asked. Doesn't mean Lebron would want to jet Miami for NOLA.
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If teams won't line up to overpay Monroe, you might be surprised at what happens.
Teams entering next season with a bunch of cap space -
Utah Jazz
Philly
Phoenix
LA Lakers
Cleveland
Orlando
Detroit
Charlotte
Milwaukee
Atlanta
A good case can be made that most of those teams would be higher interested in Greg Monroe. He will likely be offered a max deal.
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but since y'all are stuck with Smith, you almost HAVE to move Monroe for shooters and creators
I'm not convinced we are stuck with Smith, yet. I don't think the Pistons tried very hard to trade him last year.
The very first thing SVG did when he took the job was call Monroe's agent, and Monroe himself. SVG said he places a huge amount of value in Monroe, claimed he is a top 10 big in the NBA. This report was published in a number of outlets. They won't let him go for quarters on the dollar.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:22 pm to LSU Piston
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The Pistons will get a better deal than Gordon.
I see your opinion and raise you one Austin Rivers. What say you now sir?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:26 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I see your opinion and raise you one Austin Rivers.
Well, that changes EVERYTHING!!!
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:19 pm to LSU Piston
Having cap space =/= having interest in Monroe. From your list I count 3 maybes, Phoenix, Cleveland and Orlando. Honestly Afflalo for Monroe has always made the most sense if Orlando doesn't try to keep Afflalo.
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Utah Jazz - Have a similar player in Kanter
Philly - Maybe, but if they don't get Wiggins it seems likely they'll draft a big to pair with Noel
Phoenix - The most interesting name on the list to me, but they already have Plumlee and Alex Len.
LA Lakers - I think they are keeping the powder dry for 2015
Cleveland - Maybe
Orlando - Maybe
Detroit
Charlotte - They have Al Jeff playing at fringe MVP level and Zeller
Milwaukee - They like Henson and are stuck with Sanders contract.
Atlanta - Al Horford is fine playing center and they have Millsap
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:18 pm to LSU Piston
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I'm not convinced we are stuck with Smith,
Pels fans aren't convinced they're stuck with Gordon either.
quote:
The very first thing SVG did when he took the job was call Monroe's agent, and Monroe himself. SVG said he places a huge amount of value in Monroe, claimed he is a top 10 big in the NBA. This report was published in a number of outlets. They won't let me go for quarters on the dollar.
The key word is value there. SVG is no dummy. If he thinks Monroe fits next to Drummond, he will keep him. If not, he will move him for someone who will
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:45 pm to corndeaux
The problem with keeping Monroe is that the Pistons have to extend Drummond next year. They tied up too much money in Jennings and Smith already if they give Monroe big money they won't have peaches to offer Drummond. The benefit of trading for Gordon is that his big money contract comes off the books at the same time they need big money to give to Andre. And hey, if EG works with them then great; if he doesn't they can segue into another path smoothly.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:49 pm to LSU Piston
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They won't let me go for quarters on the dollar.
Greg?!?!??!
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