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Gordon still undecided on next year, has until June 29
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:25 am
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@JohnReid64: Eric Gordon still undecided if he will play final year of contract with Pelicans or opt-out.Has until June 29 to make decision.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:26 am to tunechi
Damn, he really must hate NO.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:30 am to PortCityTiger24
There is a small argument to be made for Gordon opting out and finding a 2 year contract. Yes, the cap jumps next year, but there will be an extra 600 million or so in the pot the following summer. It might be wiser to become a FA in 2017.
Or, maybe there are talks of him opting out with the wink wink agreement of the Pels giving him a long term contract this summer, like the Spurs did with Jefferson.
Either way, it is smarter for Gordon to say he is open to opting out, because there is no upside in him just saying that he is 100% opting in right now.
Or, maybe there are talks of him opting out with the wink wink agreement of the Pels giving him a long term contract this summer, like the Spurs did with Jefferson.
Either way, it is smarter for Gordon to say he is open to opting out, because there is no upside in him just saying that he is 100% opting in right now.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:30 am to PortCityTiger24
I know the conventional logic is that he ops in for the last year, takes the money he probably can't get on the open market, and hits FA in 2016 when the cap goes up. However, I am sure his agent is telling him that his stock is higher than it has been at any point in New Orleans, as he played most of last year and developed into a deadly sharpshooter. Do you really think Gordon wants to bet on himself having another healthy year before FA, or get his next contract before his next knee injury?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:32 am to PortCityTiger24
I don't know how to feel about John Reid. He's putting in actual leg work calling agents and what not, which is better than trolling us, but he's also acting like nothing where you expect nothing is something.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:33 am to saints5021
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However, I am sure his agent is telling him that his stock is higher than it has been at any point in New Orleans, as he played most of last year and developed into a deadly sharpshooter. Do you really think Gordon wants to bet on himself having another healthy year before FA, or get his next contract before his next knee injury?
good point
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:37 am to saints5021
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Do you really think Gordon wants to bet on himself having another healthy year before FA, or get his next contract before his next knee injury?
I'm willing to bet he thinks his knee is fine. He hasn't had knee issues since he finally found a doctor that knew how to treat him. He still seems to get some new injury in a new location every year, but the knee is the only injury he's ever had that pretty much cost him a season (or 2). Everything else in his career he'd miss 5-20 games and come back. I think in his mind he's not nearly as injury prone and fragile as the fans think he is. I'm not saying he's right, just that from his perspective he probably disagrees with the average fan.
As far as opting out goes, the cap is set to escalate 40% next season. At the very least that means whatever deal he can get this year he can get next year. Fear of injury, which I don't think he has, is the only reason you walk away from $15 million today just to get the same deal you can get tomorrow.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:02 am to TigerinATL
Much like his knee, I'm torn on this subject. I wouldn't mind stretching him out on a two or three year contract at a discount. Given his health issues I'm not sure that's a good idea. On the flip side if he opts out and goes somewhere else we get some cap space. Are there any good options in Free Agency to fill his void?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:03 am to tunechi
Say Gordon opts out. Would you guys be opposed to giving him 3 yr/27 mil?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:07 am to tgr4ever
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Would you guys be opposed to giving him 3 yr/27 mil?
Do you realize that you are essentially saying he doesn't think he'll beat 2/$12 next year on the open market with an almost $90 million cap There is just no way to make the math work. If he was in a bad enough spot health wise to for him to take such a low ball new deal then we wouldn't even want to sign him for that. Unless his agent tells him he thinks he can get a deal similar to his current deal, he's not opting out.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:09 am to tunechi
He is leveraging for a long term deal.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:15 am to touchdownjeebus
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He is leveraging for a long term deal.
Why is anyone assuming this is a leak from the Gordon camp and not John Reid trying to fill a slow news day by calling the agent and being told a decision hasn't been made yet because the deadline to make a decision is still several weeks away? Several of Reid's recent stories have been where he calls someone official like an agent or an athletic director and gets a no comment/nothing to report and then acts like it's news.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:23 am to TigerinATL
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Do you realize that you are essentially saying he doesn't think he'll beat 2/$12 next year on the open market with an almost $90 million cap
I get that but he may weigh the guaranteed $12 million into his decision. If he doesn't opt out and gets hurt next year, which seems to be highly likely given his history, than he may lose a good portion of that additional $12 million. It is an interesting scenario.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:23 am to tgr4ever
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Say Gordon opts out. Would you guys be opposed to giving him 3 yr/27 mil?
i would think that if the pels want him back, he'd get paid similarly to holiday & evens (11MM). i doubt gordon would sign a 3/33, but i'd bet thats what theyd offer him
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:26 am to TigerinATL
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Why is anyone assuming this is a leak from the Gordon camp and not John Reid trying to fill a slow news day by calling the agent and being told a decision hasn't been made yet because the deadline to make a decision is still several weeks away? Several of Reid's recent stories have been where he calls someone official like an agent or an athletic director and gets a no comment/nothing to report and then acts like it's news.
You are 100% correct that this is a non story.
The "news" would have been if the agent said he has decided. I guarantee if you call 100 players with player options, they will all say the same thing. "We are undecided." Literally, the only thing to say in that situation that makes sense.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:57 am to Crewz
I don't think it's as guaranteed he opts in like most assume. It can be very tempting for him to go after a mid term range deal with more security.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:14 pm to Chad504boy
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mid term range deal with more security.
Take the total of what you're projecting and subtract 1 year and $15 million from it. What he takes today has to be in the ball park of what he thinks he can get tomorrow. Opting out for 4/$40 = Opting in and signing 3/$25 next year. No thanks, it's gotta be at least $10 per year IMO. 4/$50 = 3/$35 Now you're starting to get into an area where it might be tempting. Does he think he can get 4/$50? I think most Pelicans fans would be upset if we were the team that offered it.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:41 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:there is less than a 0% chance of Gordon not being a pelican next year unless he somehow gets traded
Damn, he really must hate NO.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:57 pm to Fearthehat0307
Maybe he didn't even call the agent.
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Also, if he feels like he's getting back to normal health wise, then he considers being injured abnormal.
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Q: You have an opt-out clause in your contract, are you close to a decision?
Gordon: Not yet. I still have two weeks to do it. I’m going to take the full two weeks. As long as I get it done in time.
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Also, if he feels like he's getting back to normal health wise, then he considers being injured abnormal.
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Q: Is your career where it should be after finishing a season healthy and making the playoffs?
Gordon: Everybody’s career is always an obstacle. For me, right now, I made a big leap as far as staying healthy this season and making it to the playoffs for the first time. I had a good taste of that. It was a good year and now it’s time to progress. I’m back lifting now. July is when I really start getting into shape and doing things almost like I do during the season. The past three years I’ve been injured and rehab just takes up your whole time during the summer. I’m just getting back to a normal schedule before I had all of these injuries.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:58 pm to tunechi
I'd call his bluff. I'd love to meet the guy with his injury history who actually turns down 18 mill guaranteed.
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