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re: Espn reporting Carmelo likely gone
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:39 pm to Bigsike
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:39 pm to Bigsike
I think the Knicks picks would put what Houston can offer over the top. Minus that though, I think Ariza and West would be a pretty attractive value, although we may have to throw in Brackins. The standard we've always given for CP3 is a star player, a starter, and young talent.
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Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:44 pm to TigerinATL
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I think Ariza and West would be a pretty attractive value, although we may have to throw in Brackins. The standard we've always given for CP3 is a star player, a starter, and young talent.
Yep, I can't see Ariza and Melo on the team. What do we do at PF?
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:51 pm to VOR
quote:West, Ariza, Peja(Expiring), Songalia(Expiring) for Carmelo and KMart(Expiring) works money wise. But i think we'd also have to add Thornton, which shouldnt have much affect on the money cause he doesnt make that much
Yep, I can't see Ariza and Melo on the team. What do we do at PF?
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:59 pm to VOR
Then who plays PF if we deal West and Ariza? And there's no guarantee Melo re-signs with us. At the end of this season we could have no PF, no SF, and Paul will definitely want to GTFO.
You have to ask yourself, what am I willing to give up for a one year Melo loaner? I'd do MT5, one of the rookies, and the expirings to make it work. That wouldn't be enough, especially since NY can deal for him knowing he's going to re-up next year.
You have to ask yourself, what am I willing to give up for a one year Melo loaner? I'd do MT5, one of the rookies, and the expirings to make it work. That wouldn't be enough, especially since NY can deal for him knowing he's going to re-up next year.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:12 pm to CP3LSU25
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name one fricking reason why he would not want to come play in New Orleans.
Small market and he has no real reason to want to go there. Same reason anyone from Houston is delusional if they think he would go there. Melo has been in superstar spotlight since his days at Oak Hill. Superstars tend to like the superspotlight
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:14 pm to TEXASTIGER22
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he has no real reason to want to go there.
Him and CP3 are boys brah. I understand the limelight argument, though. But they would love to play together.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:16 pm to THRILLHO
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And there's no guarantee Melo re-signs with us
No way I do the deal unless it's a sign and trade, but that's what Melo will want anyway because he gets more money that way.
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Then who plays PF if we deal West
I see Melo and West occupying a lot of the same space/functionality on the floor, mid range scorer that's a focal point of the offense and not a great defender. You either find a more defensive minded PF banger or hope Brackins toughens up to give you spacing on offense and rebounding and help for Melo on defense.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:16 pm to VOR
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Yep, I can't see Ariza and Melo on the team.
They wouldn't be and you wouldn't want both honestly. You don't want to pay your back up SF Ariza money.
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What do we do at PF?
Pick up whoever the frick you want and pay them to watch Melo and CP3 score a shite load of points
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:19 pm to Brageous
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Him and CP3 are boys brah. I understand the limelight argument, though. But they would love to play together.
I get that aspect but so are him and Amare as well as him and probably 20 other players around the league. He would probably be recruting CP to join him in NY or wherever he went pretty hard but since they are on two seperate contract time tables I have to imagine he is gonna worry about him first.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:31 pm to TEXASTIGER22
No one figured the Big 3 would form in Miami a few months before The Decision. A lot depends on how much Carmelo wants to win and how good/bad his various suiters do. If he cares about winning and the Knicks flop hard, that opens the door for Houston and New Orleans if they come out strong.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 9:01 pm to TigerinATL
I dont see Melo coming to new orleans. Our best option was back when we had Collison. Now that we dealt him with have lost our bigest piece of leverage.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 9:09 pm to marchballer
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Our best option was back when we had Collison. Now that we dealt him with have lost our bigest piece of leverage.
Denver doesn't want DC. They have Billups and their rookie PG Lawson was ranked 1 spot behind DC in PER iirc.
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 9:15 pm to TigerinATL
I really don't think we have a chance. The Houston talk was just from one writer who said Morey wanted him. It had zero validity. New Orleans has a better shot but will realistically only have a shot at getting him as a FA. Too many teams will be offering better deals to Denver than what they can to get him before the FA deadline. The friend thing with CP holds some water but I feel like he would much rather go back to NY, play with Amare, and be in that spotlight than go to New Orleans.
Other question I haven't seen answered. Can New Orleans afford a max player next year if they can't get him through a SNT?
Other question I haven't seen answered. Can New Orleans afford a max player next year if they can't get him through a SNT?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 10:11 pm to TEXASTIGER22
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Pick up whoever the frick you want and pay them to watch Melo and CP3 score a shite load of points
That's great and all but it won't make the team a contender without bangers down low.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 10:43 pm to VOR
Yeah, I think we're in the process of building a really solid, balanced team. If you can't move Okafor, he, CP3, and Melo are taking up $45-50m a year. Thats not good enough a 3 to fill up the rest of the team on the super cheap and win a championship unless you hit on every draft pick.
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 8/17/10 at 12:21 am to THRILLHO
Meh, why not since everyone else is doing it:
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Would leave us with a fireass team this year. If Melo jets for NY, it cost us a shot at keeping Thornton, but at least we tried. Would hinge on Denver believing AI could play SF (I think he can), may have to send a little extra to Philly.
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Would leave us with a fireass team this year. If Melo jets for NY, it cost us a shot at keeping Thornton, but at least we tried. Would hinge on Denver believing AI could play SF (I think he can), may have to send a little extra to Philly.
This post was edited on 8/17/10 at 12:22 am
Posted on 8/17/10 at 1:00 am to TEXASTIGER22
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Can New Orleans afford a max player next year if they can't get him through a SNT?
Not even close. We are very close to the luxury tax threshold. Even if we let Peja and Songalia expire we are less than $10 million under the cap.
I guess there technically is a chance if West opts out and we let everyone expire. We probably won't be able to retain Thornton in that case; however, Melo is better obviously.
I see him most likely joining the Knicks or the Nets. This could all change if someone trades for him though and gives a good sales pitch.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 1:54 am to Colonel Flagg
here it is
here's my trade. I suck at screen shots so deal. What do yall think?
here's my trade. I suck at screen shots so deal. What do yall think?
This post was edited on 8/17/10 at 1:59 am
Posted on 8/17/10 at 2:40 am to Elleshoe
Elleshoe, I love that trade, but that is absolutely ridiculous. It would be insane to watch though
Posted on 8/17/10 at 8:05 am to TEXASTIGER22
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I really don't think we have a chance.
I think with an injury plagued Yao being the only other star player in Houston they'd have a tough time keeping Carmelo. That being said, I think Houston has enough expendable assets to trade for Carmelo and still be ok if he doesn't resign. New Orleans would have to have it be a S&T because they just don't have enough assets to outbid other teams and survive Melo leaving.
I'm not really all that excited by the prospect of adding Carmelo to the Hornets. The only reason I have any interest is it means Paul would be staying too. I'd much rather get Gasol if I were choosing pipe dreams. Find a way to upgrade Okafor and this team can contend now. They wouldn't be favorites but they'd have enough pieces in place to make some noise if they got a few breaks. If you give up half the starting lineup for Carmelo I think you have to rebuild some more before contending.
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