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Posted on 9/15/14 at 8:47 am to SirWinston
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It really is annoying and they are very pseudo intellectual about their crappy music. At least get into classical or jazz or something that's worth getting deep about
Many jam bands incorporate jazz-fusion into their sound.
quote:
fricking stoner music (unless it's jazz) sucks so hard.
Reggae and funk are awesome.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 8:51 am to Melvin
Or we could just post about obscure villages in Alaska.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:42 am to CAD703X
I don't think it is weird that jam bands are so popular. I do think it is weird that the MB is totally dominated with jam band discussion.
Seems like it used to be regional rap, and then it got taken over by like the same 4 people who just talk about jam bands.
Seems like it used to be regional rap, and then it got taken over by like the same 4 people who just talk about jam bands.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:46 am to Pettifogger
I'm on quite a few different message boards for a variety of topics, and this is the first one I've been on that had such a heavy jam band focus in the music discussion.
I like it, though. Jamband fans are usually fairly knowledgeable about lots of different genres and have good appreciation for music in general.
I like it, though. Jamband fans are usually fairly knowledgeable about lots of different genres and have good appreciation for music in general.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:48 am to hogfly
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Jamband fans are usually fairly knowledgeable about lots of different genres and have good appreciation for music in general.
LOL no.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:09 pm to DanMullins4Life
For me, getting into jam bands was a puzzling experience. Finding a starting point can be overwhelming when there's just so much to hear.
As I've personally found with several genres, if you can be introduced to the music in a palatable manner, seeing if it fits right for you will be more effective. A bad starting point on jam bands, country, rap, rock, etc. etc. can make an entire genre easy to dismiss.
It's too easy to hear that one Dead bootleg or see that one Phish video that's super impressive to the seasoned fan but is also just a head-first dive right into the deep end. Try getting your toes wet before dismissing "the fascination with" any group of music.
These are bands that not only typically have numerous traditional studio records but also are bands that typically do two annual tours with plenty of awesome performances that also make it into the discography discussion both as official live releases and as bootlegs.
So, from some of my favorite jammy bands, here's five suggestions for people who are trying to figure out what jam bands are all about but aren't sure of a good starting point:
Dave Matthews Band - The Central Park Concert (2003 live album via Spotify)
I'm a sucker for DMB, and this live album is hands-down one of the best recorded concerts I've ever heard. The mixing between audience participation and band performance is solid, and this one will surely be a crowning achievement from their discography.
Phish - Bittersweet Motel (2000 documentary via YouTube)
I never really knew a lot of Phish until a friend made me watch this one, and I really liked the film and in turn got into the music more. It's a good mixture of songs, it shows the live performances and it illustrates the complexities behind that style of music and improvisation.
Grateful Dead - The Very Best of the Grateful Dead (2003 compilation album via Spotify)/link]
Though The Closing of Winterland is probably my favorite live Dead album, I think started with a "best of" album of studio recordings is the best way to see that you probably do enjoy some of the Dead's work.
The Allman Brothers Band - Eat A Peach (1972 studio album via Spotify)
Every time I'm in Georgia, I eat a peach for peace, and this studio album is easily my personal favorite from Allman Brothers Band. To me, it screams Southern rock.
Keller Williams & The String Cheese Incident - Best Feeling (1999 single song via YouTube)
Keller Williams is one of my overall favorite musicians, and String Cheese Incident is about as jammy as you'll find. This singular song stands out to me as a high point in what the genre can offer, both instrumentally and lyrically.
For all the jam band lovers -- what's the starting point for the genre? If you had a 16 year old cousin you were gonna burn some CDs for, what do you put on it? If you have a friend who always mocks your taste and says his style is better, what songs to you put on to show him the music isn't what he stereotypes? If someone asks for a sampling of your favorite jam band, what's your recommendation?
As I've personally found with several genres, if you can be introduced to the music in a palatable manner, seeing if it fits right for you will be more effective. A bad starting point on jam bands, country, rap, rock, etc. etc. can make an entire genre easy to dismiss.
It's too easy to hear that one Dead bootleg or see that one Phish video that's super impressive to the seasoned fan but is also just a head-first dive right into the deep end. Try getting your toes wet before dismissing "the fascination with" any group of music.
These are bands that not only typically have numerous traditional studio records but also are bands that typically do two annual tours with plenty of awesome performances that also make it into the discography discussion both as official live releases and as bootlegs.
So, from some of my favorite jammy bands, here's five suggestions for people who are trying to figure out what jam bands are all about but aren't sure of a good starting point:
Dave Matthews Band - The Central Park Concert (2003 live album via Spotify)
I'm a sucker for DMB, and this live album is hands-down one of the best recorded concerts I've ever heard. The mixing between audience participation and band performance is solid, and this one will surely be a crowning achievement from their discography.
Phish - Bittersweet Motel (2000 documentary via YouTube)
I never really knew a lot of Phish until a friend made me watch this one, and I really liked the film and in turn got into the music more. It's a good mixture of songs, it shows the live performances and it illustrates the complexities behind that style of music and improvisation.
Grateful Dead - The Very Best of the Grateful Dead (2003 compilation album via Spotify)/link]
Though The Closing of Winterland is probably my favorite live Dead album, I think started with a "best of" album of studio recordings is the best way to see that you probably do enjoy some of the Dead's work.
The Allman Brothers Band - Eat A Peach (1972 studio album via Spotify)
Every time I'm in Georgia, I eat a peach for peace, and this studio album is easily my personal favorite from Allman Brothers Band. To me, it screams Southern rock.
Keller Williams & The String Cheese Incident - Best Feeling (1999 single song via YouTube)
Keller Williams is one of my overall favorite musicians, and String Cheese Incident is about as jammy as you'll find. This singular song stands out to me as a high point in what the genre can offer, both instrumentally and lyrically.
For all the jam band lovers -- what's the starting point for the genre? If you had a 16 year old cousin you were gonna burn some CDs for, what do you put on it? If you have a friend who always mocks your taste and says his style is better, what songs to you put on to show him the music isn't what he stereotypes? If someone asks for a sampling of your favorite jam band, what's your recommendation?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:19 pm to npersa1
quote:It's ridiculously overwhelming.
Finding a starting point can be overwhelming when there's just so much to hear.
I started with ABB, then older GD shows, and moved on to phish. I still haven't given DB a fair shot. The little bit i've listened to is pretty bad.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:26 pm to The Spleen
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Outside of Gratefule Dead, Allman Bros, Widespread Panic(Mikey Panic, not that crap they play now), and Phish, jam bands are terrible.
Only a gump doosh would like WSP
They bring nothing to the jam scene
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:28 pm to npersa1
quote:that was probably the best post about jam bands I've read on here in a while, but you forgot the wsp sux
npersa1
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:30 pm to npersa1
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For all the jam band lovers -- what's the starting point for the genre? If you had a 16 year old cousin you were gonna burn some CDs for, what do you put on it?
Phish: New Year's Eve 1995 – Live at Madison Square Garden
Grateful Dead: 1977.05.08 Barton Hall, Cornell NY
Allman Brothers Band: The Fillmore Concerts (expansion of At Fillmore East released in 1992)
Disco Biscuits: The Wind at Four to Fly
I also agree Bittersweet Motel is a great introduction.
You can even throw in some predecessor albums that aren't necessarily "jam bands" like The Who's Live at Leeds ,Cream's Live Cream , Miles Davis' A Tribute to Jack Johnson, Herbie Hancock's Headhunters, Television's Marquee Moon , Derek and the Dominos' Live at the Fillmore, Neil Young's Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere etc...
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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GreatLakesTiger24
In due time my son, you will have learned the power of the dark side. Join us, and rule the MB forever with Barbz and Brownie as your new jam gods
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:42 pm to Burt Reynolds
Mikey Panic is the GOAT
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:52 pm to Melvin
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Message Posted by Melvin Mikey Panic is the GOAT
On a scale of 1 to nuclear holocaust/abortion - how terrible is panic now?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:55 pm to Melvin
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Everyone is welcome to post whatever they want about their favorite music but this board is dead whenever there's a lack of jambandish discussions. People always bitch about this board but no one else seems to use it.
Not true. Countless music threads of a different ilk have gone unsupported on the board. There only seem to be a few topics that interest the board regulars.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:58 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:nuclear abortion
On a scale of 1 to nuclear holocaust/abortion - how terrible is panic now?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:59 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:Nuclear abortion
On a scale of 1 to nuclear holocaust/abortion - how terrible is panic now?
Eta: holy shite^^
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:01 pm to Melvin
great minds think alike baw
Posted on 9/15/14 at 8:58 pm to shutterspeed
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Not true. Countless music threads of a different ilk have gone unsupported on the board. There only seem to be a few topics that interest the board regulars.
True. I can't complain much because I don't really contribute, but this board is pretty dominated by a handful of folks who only discuss a handful of topics. There are other good topics, but the regulars don't participate in those, so they get strung out and don't get noticed by people who only come by here occasionally.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:35 pm to CAD703X
Why people on here like jam bands:
1. Most enjoy a wide variety of music genres and appreciate the eclectic way that jam bands combine those elements into a unique sound.
2. Every show is different. It makes following the tour a lot more interesting. These bands have to the keep the setlists somewhat fresh or else fans will incessantly bitch on message boards. Well, they'll bitch regardless.
3. The improvisational nature of the songs (i.e. the jamming). People find this a lot more interesting than hearing short, well-polished live versions that mimic studio work. Losing yourself in a jam is one of life's great joy's IMO. Jamming also allows the musicians showcases their skills. Which leads to the next point..
4. The musicians for jam bands are usually very skilled compared to other genres. Music aficionados are more likely to appreciate this.
5. The music is upbeat and danceable, puts you in a good mood.
6. DRUGS
1. Most enjoy a wide variety of music genres and appreciate the eclectic way that jam bands combine those elements into a unique sound.
2. Every show is different. It makes following the tour a lot more interesting. These bands have to the keep the setlists somewhat fresh or else fans will incessantly bitch on message boards. Well, they'll bitch regardless.
3. The improvisational nature of the songs (i.e. the jamming). People find this a lot more interesting than hearing short, well-polished live versions that mimic studio work. Losing yourself in a jam is one of life's great joy's IMO. Jamming also allows the musicians showcases their skills. Which leads to the next point..
4. The musicians for jam bands are usually very skilled compared to other genres. Music aficionados are more likely to appreciate this.
5. The music is upbeat and danceable, puts you in a good mood.
6. DRUGS
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