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Phil Collins/Genesis appreciation thread

Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9114 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:08 am
Never understood why so many people like to rip on Phil Collins and his solo music and especially his version of Genesis. I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan too so it's not about diminishing him at all. I've just never understood the Collins haters out there. The guy has an incredibly powerful voice not to mention being a very good drummer.

Case in point this amazing live version of one of Genesis's most underrated songs in my humble opinion...

Genesis - Mama
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:47 am to
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4460 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:02 am to
Same album, same tour, better song/s

Mama was great, but I like this one. Added bonus of Phil on drums.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:14 am to
Easy lover has one of the best bass lines ever written
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:25 am to
I agree. Very fun to play on the drums.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:33 am to
quote:


Genesis - Mama
I do like some things Collins had his hands on like Lonely Man On The Corner and a few like that, but good grief I could not hate Mama more than I do.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:34 am to
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:51 am to
LINK

3/21/19 discussion.

Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:52 pm to
I have been a fan of Phil Collins back to the Gabriel era of Genesis. As a drummer I think he was very under appreciated. He only really started focusing on his vocals and songwriting after PG left the band. He became lead vocalist by default and the song "Squonk" was his defining effort.

The evolution of Genesis from hard core Prog Rockers, to a electronic/pop group after PG left was like two totally different bands. Phil figured out real quick he could do his own thing using the old sounds of Motown as his platform moving him into a very successful top 40 career. I offer "Squonk" for you to consider:

Squonk
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27736 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:46 pm to
Starting to get into his stuff. He’s coming to Dallas this summer so I’m going to check him out

Plus he's obsessed with the Alamo, so he gets extra credit
Posted by kale
Around
Member since Feb 2017
1254 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:50 am to
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your arse. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. Goat.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9114 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:37 am to
LOL
Posted by flash
NOLA
Member since Sep 2005
512 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece


I can't imagine how someone could hear a song like The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and think that.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4660 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Invisible Touch


In The Glow Of The Night is great song and harkens back a little
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:48 pm to
Kale wins.

Holy shite. I love that movie.
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