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re: New Radiohead video - Burn the Witch
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:38 pm to CBandits82
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:38 pm to CBandits82
It might be out now and nobody knows yet.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:52 pm to Jester
You don't like In Rainbows?
That album is super good
That album is super good
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:58 pm to CBandits82
Their last two albums had no previously announced release date when they were dropped. I'd imagine they release it pretty soon.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:06 pm to SUB
It really has a "Hold Me, Thrill Me..." vibe to it, though.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:26 pm to CocoLoco
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You don't like In Rainbows?
Not really. It's pretty average and uneventful. There isn't a single song on it that I felt I needed to hear a second time.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:32 pm to Jester
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Not really. It's pretty average and uneventful. There isn't a single song on it that I felt I needed to hear a second time.
okay.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:33 pm to Jester
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Answering your own question there
I'm really not, though. You're claiming that they are overrated, when in reality, you just don't personally like them. They're loved by millions of fans and critics alike, they've won multiple Grammys and a slew of other awards, they've released eight albums that vary in style, they've sold 10s of millions of copies worldwide, they've maintained the same core members for 30 years, and they have a truly unique sound in an industry full of copycats. Being overrated would mean that the acclaim they receive isn't deserved, but when you look at what they've done and how it has been received, saying they are overrated doesn't make sense.
You can certainly not like them, but that does not mean that they're overrated. I am not a huge fan of Kid A, but I understand why it's so critically acclaimed. It's not my taste, but that doesn't make it overrated.
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It's weird that they seem to have started getting the most praise as their music began declining in quality.
Well naturally the longer you're active and releasing music, the more exposure you'll get. OK Computer came out in 1997, and there will be hundreds of people that discover that album because they heard Burn the Witch. It's not like King of Limbs is getting more praise than OK Computer or The Bends. Those albums also become more impressive over time when you realize the listenability they have decades later
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:36 pm to AlexLSU
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I'm really not, though. You're claiming that they are overrated, when in reality, you just don't personally like them.
Slow down, hoss. I love old Radiohead.
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They're loved by millions of fans and critics alike, they've won multiple Grammys and a slew of other awards, they've released eight albums that vary in style, they've sold 10s of millions of copies worldwide, they've maintained the same core members for 30 years, and they have a truly unique sound in an industry full of copycats. Being overrated would mean that the acclaim they receive isn't deserved, but when you look at what they've done and how it has been received, saying they are overrated doesn't make sense.
Methinks you are one of the overraters. Acting like they are the greatest thing to happen to music in the 21st century is what makes them overrated.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:39 pm to Jester
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Methinks you are one of the overraters. Acting like they are the greatest thing to happen to music in the 21st century is what makes them overrated.
If they aren't one of the greatest things to happen to music in the 21st century, then who is? Alex listed a plethora of reasons to back this up. What is your argument?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:50 pm to Jester
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Methinks you are one of the overraters. Acting like they are the greatest thing to happen to music in the 21st century is what makes them overrated.
I'm not even a diehard Radiohead fan. I don't like Pablo Honey, Amnesiac or King of Limbs. I'm just pointing out some pretty obvious reasons why they aren't overrated, chief.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:51 pm to AlexLSU
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Being overrated would mean that the acclaim they receive isn't deserved, but when you look at what they've done and how it has been received, saying they are overrated doesn't make sense.
Yes, the level of acclaim they receive isn't deserved. What is anyone even arguing about?
None of the traits you listed implies that they have by definition been properly rated. Yes, I don't care for them. And yes, they are overrated.
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I am not a huge fan of Kid A, but I understand why it's so critically acclaimed. It's not my taste, but that doesn't make it overrated.
Of course it does. WTF are you even saying?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I am not a huge fan of Kid A, but I understand why it's so critically acclaimed. It's not my taste, but that doesn't make it overrated.
Of course it does. WTF are you even saying?
So you truly think that since you don't like Radiohead, that means that they are overrated? That is exactly what you are saying. Do you realize how dumb that is?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
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So you truly think that since you don't like Radiohead, that means that they are overrated? That is exactly what you are saying. Do you realize how dumb that is?
That most certainly is not what I'm saying. And I've gone out of my way to point out that an artist being overrated does not mean they are bad - it simply means they are just too highly relative to how they actually are.
I happen on balance to not like Radiohead. I also happen to understand their relevance and why a lot of people like them.
None of that changes the fact that they are overrated.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That most certainly is not what I'm saying.
AlexLSU:
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I'm not even a diehard Radiohead fan...I don't like Pablo Honey, Amnesiac or King of Limbsbut...that doesn't make it overrated.
BigScrubTX:
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Of course it does. WTF are you even saying?
??????
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:09 pm to Funky Tide 8
wut. That is not the statement that I responded thusly to. Why are you making shite up? This isn't hard to understand: my opinion is that Radiohead are routinely rated higher than they actually are.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:09 pm to Funky Tide 8
Just agree to disagree with him already! Saying something is "overrated" is inherently based on the opinion of the person making the statement, so it's silly to argue who's right or wrong.
FWIW I think Alex has a stronger argument because he points out more facts as to why they are not overrated.
FWIW I think Alex has a stronger argument because he points out more facts as to why they are not overrated.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That is not the statement that I responded thusly to. Why are you making shite up?
okay, but it was the exact statement that you responded to. But okay. How is quoting the exact statement and your exact response "making shite up?"
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:54 pm to Funky Tide 8
This is what I see:
That was the exact statement I responded to. You somehow extracted it and made it with regard to something else.
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I am not a huge fan of Kid A, but I understand why it's so critically acclaimed. It's not my taste, but that doesn't make it overrated.
Of course it does. WTF are you even saying?
That was the exact statement I responded to. You somehow extracted it and made it with regard to something else.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:31 pm to Jester
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Not really. It's pretty average and uneventful. There isn't a single song on it that I felt I needed to hear a second time.
I did not care for it the first time I listened to it, but like a lot of radiohead, it is a grower.
Go back and listen to 15 Step, Weird Fishes, All I Need, Reckoner, Jigsaw, and Videotape and tell me that it's average and uneventful. Even better, go watch the Live from the Basement on Youtube of these songs. Many fans and critics feel that In Rainbows is their best album.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:37 pm to colorchangintiger
This Is A Low-Flying Panic Attack: What’s At Stake For Radiohead Fans In The “Burn The Witch” Era
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And yet, even if Radiohead are no longer the vanguard of big-box rock ‘n’ roll or even a surefire supplier of genius, it may not be time to relegate them to the nostalgia circuit.
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They may not be the most important band in the world anymore, but they remain among the most cultishly beloved. The question is, more than five years out from the most disappointing album of their career, can they continue to generate music that does justice to that devotion?
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To be a Radiohead fan in 2016 is to exist, ahem, in limbo. No one is expecting these guys to change the face of music or even evolve beyond the well-established confines of their sound, but fans don’t want to give up waiting for another masterpiece. Few people with an emotional attachment to this band are ready to concede that the canon of essential Radiohead albums is complete. We want to believe that Radiohead’s still got whatever it is that once catalyzed our collective endorphin rush, that they haven’t become another bunch of old white men coasting off their glory days.
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For what may be obvious reasons, I’m feeling emotional about it to an extent that caught me off guard. In recent days I’ve discovered in myself a weird new defensiveness toward this band. Whereas in the past I would just knowingly laugh at the group’s many outspoken haters, lately Radiohead ridicule stirs up passionate anger within me, and the threat of another subpar album triggers a profound sorrow. There is no shortage of amazing music to enjoy in this world, yet as someone who has invested so much of himself in Radiohead, the question of their continued vitality feels personal to me. I am fearing the creative death of my favorite band the way I fear the actual death of my loved ones. I am grappling with their inevitable decay the way I grapple with my own.
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