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re: Jason Isbell HBO documentary

Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:52 am to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:52 am to
He played Chelsea’s several times and I was there for all of them. Lit up a cigarette in the middle of the solo. First and only time I’ve ever seen someone smoke inside Chelseas
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:31 am to
Can someone explain the cuck stuff?
Posted by Potchafa
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:29 am to
frick him. He supports and donates to XYZ people and the mentally ill dick cutters.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:35 am to
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Can someone explain the cuck stuff?

Yeah

He tweeted how his wife’s bf got him a Nintendo switch to play while he recovered from his vasectomy and we’ve been making fun of him ever since

Plus he sang that white mans world song
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:37 am to
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Can someone explain the cuck stuff?



isbell is firmly planted left politically. he's obviously very vocal about it. this board (TD) as a whole leans right with politics. isbell's wife also leans left and many are convinced that she has influenced isbell to be far left and therefore he's a cuck soyboy limp wristed blah blah blah.

in reality jason isbell has ALWAYS been far left. he was in the drive by truckers. not exactly ted nugent rock and roll. he's always been vocal on twitter about his politics for as long as I can remember. he's just been much more famous in the last decade since he got sober. of course this board is going to hate on him for his politics and how outspoken he is. truth is, 99% of the songwriters and bands people listen to are in the same boat politically. they just aren't as outspoken as isbell is on each and every issue.

Therefore, he is firmly planted in cuck city. because of his super left wife. he obviously triggers the frick out of people on the music board
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:41 am to
Well said.
Posted by Midtiger farm
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:00 am to
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isbell is firmly planted left politically. he's obviously very vocal about it. this board (TD) as a whole leans right with politics. isbell's wife also leans left and many are convinced that she has influenced isbell to be far left and therefore he's a cuck soyboy limp wristed blah blah blah.

in reality jason isbell has ALWAYS been far left. he was in the drive by truckers. not exactly ted nugent rock and roll. he's always been vocal on twitter about his politics for as long as I can remember. he's just been much more famous in the last decade since he got sober. of course this board is going to hate on him for his politics and how outspoken he is. truth is, 99% of the songwriters and bands people listen to are in the same boat politically. they just aren't as outspoken as isbell is on each and every issue.


I love how you defend him by acting like his politics are similar to classic liberals like Steve Earle, Van Morrison, or someone like Dolly Parton when in reality he's a totalitarian borderline Marxist who thinks people with different political views than him shouldn't exist
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:50 am to
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he's a totalitarian borderline Marxist who thinks people with different political views than him shouldn't exist


where do you get that from? this sounds really warped tbh
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:04 pm to
you know if he was governor of Louisiana he’d shut this board down for wrongthink and send us all to the fema camp
Posted by WW
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:28 am to
Besides being a social media cuck, his music has been ruined by it. See White Man's World and Hope the High Road. I'm sure it's gotten worse since that release.

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How do you write a song like “White Man’s World” without letting the issue take over and become too didactic?

You just have to stay as personal with it as possible. You have to be more concerned with the narrative and your own story and how you see the world rather than how you feel other people should see the world. If you yell at people they’re going to stop listening to you. So in that song I’m trying to figure out my own role. In a society where I’ve been given so much access, what do I do to do my job correctly?

I think a big part of that is to try to consistently re-evaluate what my role is as a white male and try to figure out how I can make the playing field a little bit more equal. It is sort of a tightrope because a lot of people say if you’re a representative of the oppressor then you’re not the best person to talk about the oppression. People say Springsteen is too rich to write about working people but good songs are about empathy, compassion. I don’t think they always have to come from the mouth of the person who is being oppressed.




Who gets off on this shite?
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:30 am to
He sang about abortions?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:58 am to
watched the documentary last night. it was fantastic and not a single "political" things mentioned.

amanda shires is a nut but we all knew that already. she also very likely saved jason's life holding him accountable to his sobriety.

I remember in 2010 I think it was when he was drunk and tweeting to dierks bentley about him stealing a song of his. he was roasted on twitter for being a loser and a drunk and kinda disappeared for a while. everyone had written him off. then he releases southeastern reminding everyone how much of a bad arse songwriter he is.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:01 am to
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I'm sure it's gotten worse since that release.


so two whole songs from all of the songs he's released?

tbh it's easy to separate the art from the artist for me. I don't have to agree with every opinion that artist has to enjoy their art. the world of music would be very limited if people thought that way.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:48 pm to
I actually still like darkness on the edge of town even though Bruce Springsteen is a douche

But I bet he wasn’t a douche back then


Isbell has always been a douche and he’s getting worse and he emboldens other artists like Tyler Childers to be douches

I just don’t see how you can have the easiest job in the world and make good money from it and then shite on all the people that work hard and probably make less money than you and tell them they should be happy that half their check gets dinged for food stamps and israel because they’re racist with a straight face

Like if I wanted to get beat over the head with wokeness I could turn on the tv and see dudes making out on every channel. The fact that I go and search out non mainstream music and then they tell me I did something wrong for simply existing is extremely irritating
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:36 pm to
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He sang about abortions?


Yes and sounds like such a weak pussy. Also singing about when someone else knocked her up- when she killed someone else’s baby. What a weak cuck.

Amanda Shires, Jason Isbell take up abortion on new song, 'The Problem'
In "The Problem," songwriting wife-husband duo Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell show the weight of unconditional support in four words.

"I'm on your side," they sing.

The song finds Shires and Isbell in a musical back-and-forth that wrestles with the decision to terminate a pregnancy. The two exchange lines — "What do you want to do?" Isbell sings at one point, to which Shires replies, "I'm scared to even say the truth" — culminating in a chorus that affirms unity for any decision that may come.
The chorus sings, "And all I could think to say/ Is everything's going to be okay/ It's going to be alright/ I'm on your side."

Shires released "The Problem" Monday, coinciding with International Safe Abortion Day. Proceeds from the song benefit The Yellowhammer Fund, an Alabama-based reproductive justice organization. Listen to "The Problem" in the player above.

"If anybody feels alone, I don't think they ought to," Shires told The Tennessean. "Or they can, but I'll be on their side if nobody else is."
"I didn't want to bring anything down on my family but I keep getting madder and more frustrated," Shires said. "I feel like women's health and women's rights are important and you can't wait any longer."

And the song pulls from when Shires "didn't have a good experience with ... terminating a pregnancy," she said. Strikingly candid lines — from conversations, observations and autobiographical details, Shires said — drive the song's message.
She sings, "The scars won't even show/ At least that's what I've heard/ No bigger than a baby bird."

On her experience, Shires said: "A girl ... had to take me [to the clinic] because somebody had to take you. She's not pro-choice but the thing that struck me the most about her was that even though we didn't agree (on) the same things — about the way I was handling stuff — she was still there to support me. LINK
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:41 pm to
Cringe

Can’t believe he does all that simping for a hack with a haunted ghost hole
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Amanda Shires, Jason Isbell take up abortion on new song, 'The Problem'

'The Problem'. . . is I've never heard her on key vocally nor instrumentally.

(so sad)
Posted by WW
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:48 pm to
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so two whole songs from all of the songs he's released?

That was the turn and when I stopped listening so you tell me.

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the world of music would be very limited if people thought that way.

False. I listen to a ton that I dont agree with politically. I listen to none who poison their music with white guilt and muh Trump.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by WW
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:51 pm to
It's a shame that people can separate the politics from the artist when they try so hard and thoughtfully to shove it down their listeners's throats.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:53 pm to
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But people here seem to dislike him because his politics are left of center, he is fairly vocal about it and most people these days (on both sides) can’t handle people having differing views from them.



Eh, I don't think this is all of it. Plenty of conservatives ignore their favorite lefty musician's political views.

Isbell was more or less of us, from Alabama, etc. and many of us cheered his rise and recovery. He was an edgy outsider who went to Nashville to show them what real music was, and then proceeded to turn into a slick, popular, leftist drone who is more aligned with the HR departments of Fortune 500 companies, celebrities and major media outlets than he is the down-on-their-luck people of the South. And he did it while expressing lots and lots of disdain on the places and people from which he rose.

But all that aside, my problem is that the above saga made him a far worse musician, his songwriting suffered majorly as his credibility dropped.

quote:

I'm a white man living in a white man's nation
I think the man upstairs must'a took a vacation
I still have faith, but I don't know why
Maybe it's the fire in my little girl's eyes


^cringe
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