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re: How did mainstream country music get to where it is today?

Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:27 am to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:27 am to
Rock died in 2005 in my opinion
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:46 am to
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What happened here?

As far as the male singers/bands, Nickleback is the answer you're looking for; they all sound like a country version of Nickleback
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
1672 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:45 am to
MTV's arrival in Nashville added much to the suckage as well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:33 pm to
It has no soul. It's purely formula driven
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:57 pm to
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People like to pin it on Garth but he stayed pretty true to his country roots



His success gave record producers the motive to find the next Garth Brooks. It became a formula with no soul.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10943 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:19 pm to
Nashville/corporate took control of the airwaves.

We were told radio was dying but it's alive and well, just in the hands of a few.

See the terrible, redundant pop music forced upon us as well.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:54 am to
It merged with rap music.
Posted by SwampTrash
Member since May 2017
450 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:16 pm to
Some of you guys insist that rock must sound like Elvis and country must sound like Waylon. If anybody is different, they are just crap. All genres change over time. Take a second to listen to them all.
Posted by GreenGrassnHiTigers
Vermilion
Member since Oct 2016
216 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:14 pm to
Record labels (Bid Machine, etc.) hire "songwriters", stick them in cubicles, and give them a song quota to meet.

They pick the songs that sound most like the latest hit, hire "singers" to record them and shite out "albums".

ETA: Country music is still alive, just not on radio
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Record labels (Bid Machine, etc.) hire "songwriters", stick them in cubicles, and give them a song quota to meet.

They pick the songs that sound most like the latest hit, hire "singers" to record them and shite out "albums".


This. The music industry never really recovered from how the internet changed consumer habits. Long gone are the days when music for record labels was monetized via album sales. When the revenue stream collapsed, the industry saw massive consolidation and partnered with radio to survive. Now, the vast majority of radio and tv stations, record labels, and ISP's are owned by less than 2 dozen total companies. In radio airplay, it's more like 3. The record labels are no longer independent from radio and tv, but are subsidiaries. And radio and tv are no longer independent of ISP's or cable providers wireless companies or promoters of music, or music magazines, or music blogs, or websites, or social media.

Basically, the labels are just a cog in the massive entertainment/information leviathan controlled by an ever shrinking handful of companies.

When the record labels went into this new environment where revenue was shrinking rapidly, they went ultra-conservative. Gone are the days when record labels sought out talent to then mold, mentor, and market. No, unless one is already connected, they wait for the talent to come to them, already self-sufficient with a fan base and music and everything already done for the record label.

In the meantime, they keep staffs of songwriters and studio bands. They record the same formula-driven music to promote (their parent companies own all of the promotion apparatus that tell people if something is a hit or not) and find a marketable face to sing it.

Their music is centered, not to find a niche, but to create a demographic. They're not pandering, they're indoctrinating. They are trying to create social groups that all subscribe to the same trends and norms and create a lifestyle bundle for them. That way, each consumer can conveniently be fitted for their societal box and be told exactly what products they should want.

For example: you are in white country music male block, therefor your status symbol is a brand new chevy with a lift kit. You must drink fireball whisky and wear baseball caps poured into Solo brand cups.

If you are in hipster block E, you must wear birkenstocks, drive a prius, and drink the approved regional craft beer.

That's what it's all about. They're not trying to make "good" music, they're trying to sell products. Music is simply their indoctrination method. They have hijacked the means of production and distribution and bastardized it to those ends while laughing all of the way to the bank.

However, the streaming revolution and the ever-growing indy musician market is starting to show serious cracks in the leviathan's facade. People are now creating their own radio stations. Bands are recording their own music and mapping their own tours. Because the labels now expect new acts that they didn't create to come to them fully self-sufficient, artists are realizing that the record labels really do not provide that much of a service. Those labels are now just a scheme to get the copyrights of peoples' music for streaming and licensing purposes. Thanks to technology, musicians are now more able to reach their target audience directly, promote their music themselves, tour, record, perform all of the duties of a classic record label, themselves.

It truly is a fascinating time to be living in. The music industry will change even more over the next 10 years than it did in the past 20.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:31 pm to
Better than your shitty band
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Better than your shitty band


Fair enough
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12284 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 5:38 pm to
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kingbob


This could not be more correct. Spot on
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 5:52 pm to
People have been asking this exact same question over and over again since the 1990's.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53012 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:18 pm to
And country hasn't changed since then. Luke Bryan and fgl are the only acts that are innovating the genre any more
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:21 pm to
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And country hasn't changed since then. Luke Bryan and fgl are the only acts that are innovating the genre any more


Spot on
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53012 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:24 pm to
People on this board always go on about Stapleton and while his voice is ok I don't even think he's rapped on a track yet
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:51 pm to
Luke bryan is one of the few country artists that can freestyle

You really cant cut it in the scene today without flow
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:38 pm to
Hate 'em or love 'em, FGL, Luke Bryan, and Sam Hunt are definitely innovators. However, not all inventions are improvements.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:59 pm to
It's awful
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