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Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
3981 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:15 pm to
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Initially they sounded so much like Pearl Jam they were the butt of jokes.


I never understood that angle. I think it was very few music critics that said that. It wasn't some huge belief among listeners.

And STP formed in 1989, you said in another post they were a corporate creation.

So before Ten dropped and had success they were formed to leach off of that sound?
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7362 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:49 pm to
I was there too! Eddie Vedder climbed across the rafters during Porch. Some ding-dongs got kicked out before the show started because they were stage diving to an Ice Cube tape.
Posted by sweatyfreddy
Member since Feb 2024
129 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:50 pm to
Obscure Jax FLa Sub Pop band Rein Sanction was amazing.

LINK

Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7362 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:58 pm to
No, initially Scott Weiland had a lot of the same vocal mannerisms as Eddie Vedder. And there was a feeling that they were kind of a corporate thing because they didn’t come from Sub Pop, SST or another hip indie label.

I think it turned out that Weiland just had the same influences as Eddie Vedder. And apparently the whole deal about him being a fake corporate rocker bugged him to the point that he started using heroin to deal with it. (It was a big, big deal in the early 90s to be a sell-out)

I wasn’t a huge STP fan - I thought they paled in comparison to Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Alice In Chains, etc. But they had staying power and did a lot of different, solid tunes. And STP sounded like Black Sabbath compared to the wave of lame bands that followed - Creed, Nickelback, Candlebox, Collective Soul, Days of the New, etc.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
3802 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:19 pm to
I’m recommending L7 and two of their albums, Smell the Magic and Bricks are Heavy. Everyone has heard “Shitlist” from Natural Born Killers. I’ve seen them twice in the last two years and they’re packing the small clubs out. Finally getting the recognition they earned.

I’ll always be a fan of Nirvana. The fact Kurt played an actual left handed guitar gave hope for us southpaws.
Posted by johnqpublic
Right here
Member since Oct 2017
619 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:30 am to
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They went downhill after Ten.


I was a huge fan of Ten, still am. I was eagerly anticipating the release of Vs. Yet when it came out I was disappointed. It just didn't grab me the way Ten did. I'm not even sure why. With Ten, I was sold the first time I listened through. Vs. never moved me in the same way. Never paid much attention to them after Vs. unless a song was on the radio.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28736 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:14 am to
He’s a fricking idiot just ignore.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27035 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:16 am to
Just natural progression for a songwriter. First album or two are your life’s work to that point. The rest of your albums are new writing and old non favorites with the “growing as a band” songs thrown in.

Vedder stopped trying any vocal range after VS for a while. His tone sounded the same. With occasional great songs per album instead of the occasional stinker per album.

Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7816 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Or maybe a label signed thembecause of their sound to capitalize on the grunge movement?


this is pretty much what happened.

was the early 90s version of what happened in the 80s with hair bands.
RATT hit it huge, then there was a mad rush to go out and sign every band on the strip that sounded even remotely similar.
Posted by yallgood
Franklinton
Member since Jan 2018
828 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:22 am to
Red Hot Chili peppers
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam

NOLA Municipal Auditorium Feb 92 all time classic linup
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
7722 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Time has shown that AIC and Stone Temple Pilots were the greatest of the era.


Add Soundgarden, too.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68462 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Red Hot Chili peppers
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam

NOLA Municipal Auditorium Feb 92 all time classic linup
Went to that. As I recall the tix were really cheap, like $25 or less.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52851 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Time has shown that AIC and Stone Temple Pilots were the greatest of the era.




I've listened to plenty of Alice and Chains, but I dived into their catalogue a couple of weeks ago on a 3 hour trip, and did some more active listening. I thought about what makes them sound the way they do, and I guess I never fully realized how incredible Staley and Cantrell's harmonies are. That is what makes their sound so distinct I reckon, along with great song writing obviously. I read that Cantrell harmonizes in 4th intervals instead of the common 3rds and 5ths which other bands started emulating after them, making up that "90s" rock sound.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1984 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:59 pm to
Alice In Chains’ “Dirt” album is not just the best album from the era, it’s one of the best rock albums of all time. In my humble opinion, of course.
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
2101 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Temple of the Dog


Mad Season's Above gets forgotten in this era too but has some solid tunes IMHO
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
3981 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:49 pm to
That is such a good album. Wake Up, X-Ray Mind, I'm above, Lifeless Dead, so many great songs.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15060 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

I've listened to plenty of Alice and Chains, but I dived into their catalogue a couple of weeks ago on a 3 hour trip, and did some more active listening. I thought about what makes them sound the way they do, and I guess I never fully realized how incredible Staley and Cantrell's harmonies are.



I've just recently started watching the unplugged show they did back in the late 90s and this is the exact same conclusion I came to. I never realized how much harmonizing they did and it's really good.
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
1639 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:28 pm to
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I never realized how much harmonizing they did and it's really good.

I’ve recently rewatched their unplugged as well. (It’s definitely One of the Best). I wish I’d appreciated them more in the nineties.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63668 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

I never understood that angle. I think it was very few music critics that said that. It wasn't some huge belief among listeners


I don't think the poster is justifying it. Right or wrong, that was how many in the public viewed STP when they hit big with "Plush.". They eventually outgrew the comparison.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4367 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:31 pm to
My thirteen year old digs Pearl Jam. Today, I introduced her to the MTV Unplugged album. I told her that when that album was released, I was always so pissed when one of the songs was played instead of the studio album version. Now, at 45, I'm like, "Yeah! Acoustic!"

Many of us old rockers have turned to acoustic Indie and bluegrass.
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