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re: Greatest lyricists of all time

Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted by auggie
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:20 pm to
"Rap has entered the forest"
Wouldn't that have been Thumper?
Posted by Allthatfades
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:50 am to
John Prine
James McMurtry
Posted by sertorius
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 6:56 am to
Hey Kafka,

I heard an old song on the radio the other day, with a lyric something like, "...I feel higher than a kite..." The internet was only giving me Niki Minaj. Do you know it?

Thanks.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:02 am to
Michael Card - Christian songwriter
Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
Jim Morrison - The Doors
Kerry Livgren - Kansas
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Bob Dylan

I hate the Internet phrase “and it’s not even close” and I still almost used it here.


He's definitely where the conversation ends IMO..

Other personal favorites that come top of mind.. Im sure im prob missing some obvious others...

Townes Van Zandt
Shane MacGowan
Bruce Springsteen
Jay Farrar
Tim Rogers
Stephen Malkmus (in a different kinda way)
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:23 am to
Ya'll know I'm just stirring things up, right?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Gifman
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Greatest lyricists of all time


this guy for sure

Posted by BLIZZAKE7
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:09 am to
Guy Clark
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:20 am to
In a conversation about great lyricists you START with Plant? Guy is/was a great front man, but deep fricking thinker he wasn't. shite, half of his stuff was straight ripped from blues artists.
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:08 am to
Maynard James Keenan
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Robert Plants lyrics in 10 years gone



Absolutely GORGEOUS song. From the opening lines


quote:

Then as it was, then again it will be
And though the course may change sometimes
Rivers always reach the sea
Blind stars of fortune, each have several rays
On the wings of maybe, down in birds of prey
Kind of makes me feel sometimes, didn't have to grow
But as the eagle leaves the nest, it's got so far to go





through the journey and then to the eventual callback to this opening lines with:

quote:

We are eagles of one nest
The nest is in our soul




Absolutely stunning. This song gives me chills every time.


With that said, RAIN SONG is not only my favorite Zepplin song, but it is Plant's most beautifully written lyrically. I believe it's the absolute definition of love, and it is void of all the cliche stuff most everyone else writes about.

quote:

The mystery of the quotient


Perfection.


Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Maynard James Keenan





Definitely one of the greats.




Jim James of My Morning Jacket deserves recognition. Steam Engine is an absolute treasure of poetry about our connection to Christ and the holy spirit (the steam engine) that drives us. It harbors none of the cliche Christian lyrics that we usually see.

quote:

the fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you need


when he delivers this line after a long setup of fantastic lyrics, it punches hard. In and of itself it is a simple line, but the context of the full body is perfection.





Posted by KirbySmartass
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:33 pm to
Can’t believe this made it to page 2 without Robert Hunter being mentioned yet.
In terms of still alive and performing today, Patterson Hood and Mike Cooley, their recent woke whiny shite notwithstanding, also deserve a mention.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Watched this Rick Beato video today and it really made me realize how far we’ve come from the great lyricist’s of the past. Songs today make me cringe because they’re either extremely cliché, make absolutely no sense, or add no flavor to the song. Then you go back and listen to Robert Plants lyrics in 10 years gone, Kashmir or even black dog. You really start to realize how far we’ve fallen from poetry in music, and also how society doesn’t care about poetic lines anymore. It’s all about a catchy chorus. So who do y’all consider to be great lyricist?


You're not looking hard enough.

Josh Ritter is as good of a song writer as Dylan. You have guys like Josh Ritter, Avett Brother, Joe Pug, Langhorn Slim, Joe Purdy, Jose Gonzalez, Barr Brothers, Dawes, Local natives, Jason Isbell (political stuff aside), and hell you even have a mainstream guy like Zach Bryan that is an incredible song writer and very proficient.

There is so much good music out there right now, especially singer songwriters. You just have to widen out a little.

Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:55 pm to
frick L. Ron Hubbard, and frick all his clones
frick all these gun-toting hip gangster wannabes
Yeah, frick retro anything, frick your tattoos
frick all you junkies, and frick your short memory
Yeah, frick smiley glad-hands with hidden agendas
frick these dysfunctional insecure actresses


'Cause I'm praying for rain
I'm praying for tidal waves
I want to see the ground give way
I want to watch it all go down
Mom, please flush it all away
I want to see it go right in and down
I want to watch it go right in
Watch you flush it all away
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:08 pm to
Any list of lyricists must include

Townes vanZandt,
Dylan
Kristofferson
Cole Porter
John Lennon
Yes, Springsteen, too, in spite of the occasional corn.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Yes, Springsteen, too, in spite of the occasional corn.


I met a little girl and I settled down
In a little house out on the edge of town
We got married and swore we'd never part
Then little by little we drifted from each other's hearts

At first I thought it was just restlessness
That would fade as time went by and our love grew deep
In the end it was something more, I guess
That tore us apart and made us weep

And I'm driving a stolen car down on Eldridge Avenue
Each night I wait to get caught, but I never do

[Verse 3]
She asked if I remembered the letters I wrote
When our love was young and bold
She said last night she read those letters
And they made her feel one hundred years old

I'm driving a stolen car on a pitch-black night
And I'm telling myself I'm gonna be alright
But I ride by night and I travel in fear
That in this darkness, I will disappear
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Songs today make me cringe because they’re either extremely cliché, make absolutely no sense, or add no flavor to the song. Then you go back and listen to Robert Plants lyrics in 10 years gone, Kashmir or even black dog. You really start to realize how far we’ve fallen from poetry in music, and also how society doesn’t care about poetic lines anymore. It’s all about a catchy chorus.


So the No. 1 song in '63 was Surfin' USA. That's not a catchy chorus? That's great poetry? Extremely cliche describes about every pop song ever.

You're comparing Plant to todays' pop artist? Would a better comparison would be Harry Styles, Adele, Ed Sheeran to Brenda Lee, Chubby Checker, or Ricky Nelson?

Compare Robert Plant to who sings for Great Van Fleet.
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