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Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:48 am to
Posted by BrotherEsau
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:48 am to
10-8 and 10-9-89 Hampton coliseum Formerly the Warlocks shows

3-22 and 3-29-90

Fall 89 through summer 90 is my favorite period

6-7-77

12-31-78

Dude you have a whole world waiting to be explored.

Long strange trip on Amazon is good documentary

Check out the View from the Vault videos as well.

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 11:16 am to
got some live 71 NRPS going now
thanks for reminding me I had it
good stuff
Posted by Tear It Up
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Since youre on spotify, check out Two from the vault 8/23/1968 and 8/24/1968


Has my all time favorite performance of "Morning Dew" even though it got cut short.
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 12:10 pm to
I do get attraction for the live Dead stuff, just not for me and as a band in general, But.... Workingman's Dead and American Beauty.... at least a couple of songs that rank in my top 50 or so greatest R&R songs ever written / recorded.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:31 pm to
I was about to ask about studio albums. American Beauty is only one I've listened to much. I'm guilty of sticking to live Dead shows, but I really need to listen to their studio releases.

Dark Star is like 2 minutes long on the album, and so damn good. But so different than the live versions.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:04 pm to
The dead didnt care about studio albums, they even talk about it themselves saying they could never conjure up the same energy as their live shows.
Posted by AUGDawg
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:16 pm to
72-77 you can't go wrong
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 10:45 am to
anthem is worth owning and listening, it was way out there and kind of groundbreaking at the time
you absolutely want to own workingmans and beauty
ditto for live/dead, skull and roses and reckoning (live album compilations)

otherwise live shows are where the magic is
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:39 pm to
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otherwise live shows are where the magic is

X 1,000,000 .... live Dead shows cannot be described in words or pictures. You have to be there in person and feel the euphoria and electricity.

The band controls the crowd and the crowd controls the band - truly a symbiotic relationship. How I roll at a Dead show


Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 10:17 pm to
That's why I'm so grateful for Dead and Company. I'm 27, I didn't get to see Jerry and the boys, but last weekend at Boulder, I went to "that place" you hear about at Dead shows. Whether it is the same for people who got to see Jerry, I don't know. But I got to experience a version of something I thought I missed out on, and I'm very happy I had that opportunity.

I became so familiar with the catalog of music last summer and this past year. Getting to hear it live in a stadium setting with Deadheads of all ages and lifestyles surrounding me, was truly a life changing experience. Hearing those first few notes and hearing the crowd a buzz with song they were about to launch into. If this band keeps playing, I'm gonna keep going.

It gave me a new perspective to listen to old live shows as well. I can see them working the audience as I listen now. I see/hear the back and forth between the band members during jams better after seeing the show. I always assumed I just missed my time as a Deadhead, but I realized I timed it perfect. Seeing the shows with the people I saw them at the time I saw them couldn't have been more perfect. My life hit a peak happiness level standing in Folsom Field last Friday. And I've been riding that peak ever since!

Time to listen to a show before bed time. I heard a Stella Blue on the way hike on GD radio on Sirius XM that almost had me in tears. Has me yearning for some slow soulful ballads from the boys.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:41 am to
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That's why I'm so grateful for Dead and Company.
Stopped reading here. If you're looking to appreciate the musicianship of the Grateful Dead, Dead & Co isn't the place to be. Big shows in big stadium with a lot of people fluff it up.

Honestly, it sounds similar to Fare Thee Well. Everything about the weekend was great except the music itself.
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:47 am to
Blues For Allah is a great studio album.

If you like Anthem, check out Two from the Vault and Dick's Picks 22.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:48 am to
Entitled to your opinion. I enjoyed everything about the weekend, even the music. I'm not a music fan that has to be super critical of every show. Long as the sound is good, and it's music I enjoy, I'll have the time of my life at any venue with any number of bands.

However, for me, the D&C shows in Boulder have been the best experiences for me at a concert. From the atmosphere to the friends I was with to the music I listened to. It was great.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:52 am to
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However, for me, the D&C shows in Boulder have been the best experiences for me at a concert. From the atmosphere to the friends I was with to the music I listened to. It was great.


Don't let anyone harsh your buzz. If you had a good time, that's what counts. I saw the Dead a bunch of times in the early 90s... and guess what... a lot of those shows technically "sucked," but that doesn't mean that I didn't have a great time and enjoy the hell out of it. Retrospectively, I can go back to those boots and listen to the music and know that they weren't the greatest, but they still have a lot of meaning to me.

The people that poopoo the Dead offshoots as not pure or good or whatever are just being elitist, imo, because the fact is that a lot of the actual Grateful Dead shows were shite (Samba in the fricking Rain... good lord.... US Snooze... )

Anyway.. it's a cliche but I'll throw it out there, "Talking about music is like dancing about architecture."


Also: Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

Also: One man gathers what another man spills.


This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 8:54 am
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:00 am to
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:26 am to
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The people that poopoo the Dead offshoots as not pure or good or whatever are just being elitist, imo, because the fact is that a lot of the actual Grateful Dead shows were shite (Samba in the fricking Rain... good lord.... US Snooze... )




John mayer vs jerry garcia. Nuff said.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:34 am to
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Don't let anyone harsh your buzz. If you had a good time, that's what counts. I saw the Dead a bunch of times in the early 90s... and guess what... a lot of those shows technically "sucked," but that doesn't mean that I didn't have a great time and enjoy the hell out of it.

The people that poopoo the Dead offshoots as not pure or good or whatever are just being elitist, imo, because the fact is that a lot of the actual Grateful Dead shows were shite (Samba in the fricking Rain... good lord.... US Snooze... )


This. There's a reason there are about 20-25 shows out of 2,000 that keep getting mentioned over and over.

I like some RatDog.


Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:35 am to
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John mayer vs jerry garcia. Nuff said.



I'm not going to argue about the relative greatness, but there was a lot of very subpar Garcia in the 90s where he was basically nodding off, mumbling (or outright forgetting) lyrics, and missing crucial points of songs (the Inspiration line in Terrapin is probably the most famous frequent flub).

But yes... Garcia is irreplaceable, and I've never gone to see any post-Dead band because I've had my time in the sun with the Dead and don't want to "ruin" my memories. That being said: I'm under no illusion that people can't have great, spiritual, peak experiences with any number of great post-Dead lineups. Nor am I under the delusion that the Grateful Dead was some infallible group of musical savants who never had an off night. In fact, I'd say that off nights outnumbered on-nights for shows that I saw in the 90s. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the hell out of those shows, though.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:05 am to
every post dead show I've seen (furthur, Phil, Bobby, dead & bro) has been better musically than any 90's dead show I saw. I can't do Vince and Jerry was in bad shape

Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:33 am to
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every post dead show I've seen (furthur, Phil, Bobby, dead & bro) has been better musically than any 90's dead show I saw. I can't do Vince and Jerry was in bad shape
90-91 is pretty fricking awesome. I don't think "furthur, Phil, Bobby, dead & bro" will sniff that.
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