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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.

Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:03 pm to
Here is the Lehmann...compact with a seperate power supply!

The bottom has the dip switches for MM capacitive and MC resistive settings for different cartridges.




Posted by HebertFest08
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:21 pm to
Yeh... If hate to not get the Lehman especially with a better table...
I just think I need to set a limit

I will think about it though. You sure you aren't a salesman in the industry?
Posted by HebertFest08
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

The bottom has the dip switches for MM capacitive and MC resistive settings for different cartridges.


I'd assume you just set it to the correct type of cartridge you have...
Looks like it's called the black cube statement at $449 on music direct.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:28 pm to

quote:

HerbertFest08



That table my friend has may no longer be available...he believes it may be sold already.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:29 pm to
Yes...the Black Cube Statement.

And yes, I am in sales!!...just not in the audio industry
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:32 pm to
I have had a few phono stages that were all under $500 and they all had a fair amount of background noise to them--that's kinda the norm for such inexpensive gear.

The Lehman really surprised me as it was just dead silent--and I had it plugged into the big rig with the volume almost all the way up and you just heard silence.

That is German engineering there.
Posted by HebertFest08
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:55 pm to


okay... If it isn't I'll definitely take a look at it as a possibility... If not, carbon with the Lehmman more than likely.

Unless something pops up on the site that's a good deal
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:32 pm to
I would do base Carbon table...you can get them for $360.

Then get a center weight. The "puck-it" is kinda expensive at $80, but it fits with the cover closed and is a good weight. There is a pic in the last couple of pages of another poster that has a different center weight and I can't tell what it is (maybe river man?) but I don't know if it fits when the cover is on and closed. I will try to find out.

You should be able to get the Black Cube for $395 or less. If you need help negotiating it, let me know...I have a long standing relationship with Music Direct and Elusive Disc and usually get 20% off everything I purchase. I will be happy to call them on your behalf to get it extended to you.

So we are at $360 for table, $395 for Cube and +/-$50 for a weight...if you have a budget of $1200, you probably can do the Blue Point Cart ($400) too--with some to spare.

You can run with the Ortofon M2 Red cart as well...it is a decent cart, but the Blue Point steps it up a great deal (I actually had one in an old Pioneer PL-41 table).

If you need, I will give you my info and you can contact me regarding placing an order with my discounts.


Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:39 pm to
Also...do what river_man and another poster did--follow my advice on getting a piece of granite cut and some VibraPods to go under the slab of granite.

It not only provides a solid base and foundation for the table, but also takes the aesthetic side to another level as well--for around $75!!


Posted by HebertFest08
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:51 pm to
Appreciate the info Marco! I'll see what I can get done here either this week or next. I have a skeleton crew at the office and it's nuts right now. Appreciate the help again... Hopefully I don't have to ask to see if they will hook me up!
Posted by mardigraspete
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:07 am to
marco, I am hoping you can give me some advice. i'm looking to upgrade my amp and preamp. My current set up is one of your side rigs I believe.

Rotel 1075 amp
Rotel 1068 pre
Klipsch epic cf-3's
Acoustic Research turntable

My choices on amps are a Mac M352 or a Pass Labs X250.5. I haven't heard the pass but have owned nakamichi gear in the past and liked it. Any thoughts on these two?

On the preamp side i'm thinking the Mac C2300 or a Cary SLP-05. Have you listened to any Cary products?
Apparently, no Cary dealers in LA.

I really like the Klipsch and the a.r. table and will keep those for as long as they hold out.

Thanks!
Posted by river_man
On the banks of the Mississippi
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:22 pm to
Now playing...



Pearl Jam "Backspacer", 2009

Not my fav by them, but some good tunes on here. Awesome artwork, which is pretty much the standard for PJ.
Posted by HebertFest08
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:49 pm to
River man... You in the BR area? Was curious about who you got to do the granite piece to set your table on?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:23 pm to
Am I a fool to consider a $520 used and slightly scuffed Odyssey Khartago that is in good working condition? Or should I just go ahead and put in a call to the manufacturer and buy a new one with upgraded caps?

Images here (Audiogon)
Posted by river_man
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:48 pm to
I'm closer to N.O. but I picked mine up in Gonzales at Ascension Marble & Granite. I went through their scraps and got one cut to the size I wanted. It really makes a difference with the Vibrapods beneath it. Here's a pic...

Posted by river_man
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:57 pm to
Now spinning...



Rush "A Farewell To Kings", 2015 reissue
Posted by river_man
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:56 pm to


Alice In Chains "Jar of Flies", 2010 Music On Vinyl reissue. This is one side (and one record), flip it over and you got...



Alice In Chains "Sap", a great, early EP.

And how cool is this??

Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:43 pm to
Well I'm damn near in pville. So that ain't a problem.

What they get you for if you don't mind me asking? It included cut and polishing?
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:21 am to
quote:

mardigraspete



Ok...here goes...


You are going in the wrong direction...

I am very familiar with the SLP-05---had one in the rig for a few months. As far as Pass Labs goes, it is top notch.

However, if you plan on staying with your Klipsch, you should not be looking for more powerful amps, but better, more precise, lower powered amps. That Klipsch speaker is a horn speaker, and has an efficiency rating of 100dB--crazy efficient...which means it will rock n roll with just a few watts of power. You can easily make them sing with just 20-30 watts of power. All horn speakers are extremely efficient and share very high efficiency specs--meaning you hardly need any power to drive the hell out of them.

If you want to do Pass Labs, look into their XA line, which is Class A power for the full bandwith. The XA-30 and XA -60 will be more than adequate. The regular Pass Labs X series amps leave class A after about 10 watts of power and revert to Class AB...hence their way higher watts per channel power outputs. The Pass Labs XA amps are the real deal. It will give you most of the attributes of a tube amp without the tubes!

Same with McIntosh. I would look into an MC275 tube amp for those speakers. That amp is one of the longest running amps Mac has made (50 years and 6th generation now). They are bulletproof and have a voluptuous sound. 75 X 2 watts per channel. The MC275 uses KT-88 or KT-120 power tubes.

Now as far as a pre amp--your call. Some like to mate tube pre with tube amp, and others like tube pre with solid state power. It depends on your preference (and input/output impedences matching too--the old 10x rule here).

The McIntosh tube or solid state pre amp with an MC 275 power amp will be glorious with your speakers.

The pass XA-30 or XA-60 monos and a pass pre amp will also be fantastic. Don't write off Pass XA series--they are really good.

If you want to run with the Cary SLP-05, I would mate it with either an older Cary V-12R power amp (EL-34 tubes...12 of them--60wpc triode or 120wpc pentode) or the newer one that replaced it (forget the model, but it outputs 120 watts and runs about $5500 new--12 tubes I believe--also EL-34s).

I prefer, in lower powered tube amps, the EL-34 tube. The KT-88/90/120/150 tube will give a higher power output, but loses some of that old school glorious tube sound (if that makes sense).

Usually, I like EL-34 tubes in amps 50wpc or less--which is way more than you need with a Klipsch speaker with a 100dB efficiency rating.


Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:25 am to
quote:

HopefulDoc



Go with new. You know what you are getting and also will have a working audio relationship with the man behind the amp--pretty cool and worth the extra $450 IMO (not to mention twice the capacitance).
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