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re: Are musicians forced to give up their lives to drugs in order to become great?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:59 pm to StickyFingaz
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:59 pm to StickyFingaz
Yeah, we posted almost at the same time.
If Elvis was on drugs he at leat kept that shite in control until much later in his career.
If Elvis was on drugs he at leat kept that shite in control until much later in his career.
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 11:02 pm
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:00 pm to ZacAttack
I honestly don't know... I just always assumed he was
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:01 pm to Snatchy
quote:My incredulity was directed toward your sales claim, which I had to look up to confirm
The year was 1980. The album was Back in Black.
I knew screeching was popular, I just had no idea how popular
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:03 pm to StickyFingaz
Elvis didn't drink and AFAIK never took drugs until he started using speed in the army (in order to stay awake on guard duty) -- i.e. after he became a superstar
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:05 pm to Kafka
The more you know 
Never really studied up on The King's lifestyle.
Never really studied up on The King's lifestyle.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:06 pm to Kafka
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My incredulity was directed toward your sales claim, which I had to look up to confirm I knew screeching was popular, I just had no idea how popular
I can understand the sentiment. Keep in mind, none of these "artists" break in to my top ten. So, I guess, I am pro narcotic.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:06 pm to Zappas Stache
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ETA: Pete Townsend
Heroin addict
Posted on 8/5/14 at 6:50 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Lennon got pretty far into cocaine in the early/mid 70s and he dove head first into the deep end. Nick Kent went into some detail on that issue.
Half of Kiss (Criss/Frehley) were as bad as addicts get.
Angus Young liked his booze (alcohol is a drug).
Rush smoked lots of pot and liked some drinks too.
Half of Kiss (Criss/Frehley) were as bad as addicts get.
Angus Young liked his booze (alcohol is a drug).
Rush smoked lots of pot and liked some drinks too.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 7:34 am
Posted on 8/5/14 at 6:55 am to StickyFingaz
Drugs are used by musicians to keep it all going. Does not contribute to good musicianship, IMO.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:28 am to PeaRidgeWatash
Musicians on drugs have made some awesome music. It boggles the mind that something like Rumours could be made while the performers are gaaked on cocaine. That shite is the anti-creativity drug of all drugs. And that's just of example of many where it's hard to imagine the end result being any better without drugs.
In the immortal words of Bill Hicks, if you don't think drugs have done some good things for us, go home and take all your albums and cds and burn 'em. Because more than likely, the people that made them were real fricking high on something.
In the immortal words of Bill Hicks, if you don't think drugs have done some good things for us, go home and take all your albums and cds and burn 'em. Because more than likely, the people that made them were real fricking high on something.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:31 am to ZacAttack
It certainly can be a catalyst for greatness. Heroin probably being #1 in quality lyrics. But I can imagine they need to be sober or sober-ish to put it down for recording.
By that same token a lot of not great musicians went off the deep end and it killed them. Sid Vicious. Even Jim Morrison at The End (swidt). He had already written all he could. He was spent creatively. IMO.
By that same token a lot of not great musicians went off the deep end and it killed them. Sid Vicious. Even Jim Morrison at The End (swidt). He had already written all he could. He was spent creatively. IMO.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:00 am to StickyFingaz
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Never really studied up on The King's lifestyle
Read the two volume books by Peter Guralnick called Last Train To Memphis and Careless Love about the King's life. First book goes up to the army induction. The second book even details events about surrounding concerts in Baton Rouge and Monroe. Both good reads
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:04 am to Snatchy
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AFI
top 5 american album .
Please elaborate
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:20 am to Forkbeard3777
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The great Motor City Madman...Ted Nugent.
I guess you never saw him live in the 70's...
Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:22 am to CaptainPanic
I read Keith Richards' autobio, and in it he states that drugs, especially speedballs, are good for the repetitious stuff, like practicing and putting a song together. How true! With the right combination of dope, you can practice for hours, where normally you'd give it maybe an hour max. I have to be sober however, to write lyrics.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:42 pm to ZacAttack
Anders is better sober.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:37 pm to LSUrme
Jack White drug free
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:26 pm to purpgoldblood
I think the drugs thing is more about being a touring musician who parties hard due to the atmosphere of the road which often eventually leads to serious, solitary addiction (Jerry Garcia, sitting alone in a dark rooms in his boxers eating Haagen Daaz and chasing the dragon for days on end).
There is also a connection between the drugs and the creative mindset (whether it's exploration/experimentation or escape). Obviously I don't think drugs are in any way necessary to be a quality musician. Correlation does not equal causation.
There is also a connection between the drugs and the creative mindset (whether it's exploration/experimentation or escape). Obviously I don't think drugs are in any way necessary to be a quality musician. Correlation does not equal causation.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:30 pm to DosManos
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Please elaborate
"Sing the Sorrow" peaked at 5 on the Billboard 200.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:37 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Heroin being the #1 in quality lyric.
The experience of being dope sick and a junkie, yeah, but the high of junk? Negative. Everything, including music takes a back seat.
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