re: Zack Snyder steps down from Justice League due to family tragedy

Posted by OMLandshark

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:47 am to BlacknGold

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However, if you cant look beyond the surface and see this is WB taking a tragic event and making a brilliant PR move out of it, you are being duped. This happened two months ago and Snyder continued to work on the film. Without getting into the emotional side of the story, why wouldnt he have left right away?

Posted by JasonMason

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:53 am to BaddestAndvari

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look at my post above you, extremely militant conservatives can't stand that he's an outspoken liberal... it's sad really

Lol. I enjoy Joss Whedon's work, but he's not just an outspoken liberal. He's said some really unhinged things on social media over the last year. Granted artist's are pretty out there, he seems like he has some intense mental issues.

Posted by BlacknGold

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:02 am to OMLandshark

I debated using a 13 Reasons Why meme but I thought it might shatter you.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:48 pm to BlacknGold

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Let me start by saying of course this is a terrible tragedy. I never wish anyone to undergo this sort of pain and suffering.

Good start.

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However,

Aw shite, here we go...

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if you cant look beyond the surface and see this is WB taking a tragic event and making a brilliant PR move out of it, you are being duped. This happened two months ago and Snyder continued to work on the film. Without getting into the emotional side of the story, why wouldnt he have left right away?

You have no idea what Snyder has gone through and zero insight into how he dealt with this.

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Just over a week ago, reports came about that MAJOR rewrites and reshoots were being done and that Snyder was forced to work alongside Whedon. The reports even go so far as to say the movie has basically been remade. LINK

Which was immediately debunked. But that's how these false stories live on. People ignore the follow-up and latch on to the initial false report. it was rumored earlier this month that Justice League was undergoing massive reshoots, but that was soon debunked.

Posted by BlacknGold

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:25 pm to Fewer Kilometers

Please keep shielding yourself and believe that a billion dollar studio would never use a tragedy to benefit themselves.

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Which was immediately debunked. But that's how these false stories live on. People ignore the follow-up and latch on to the initial false report.

Did you even read your own article? Producer Charles Roven himself admits to the reshoots happening, just saying it is not right now due to schedules but they are happening. Also, this is the PRODUCER of the film. Do you think he's going to hint at anything negative about his billion dollar franchise? The article doesn't even mention Snyder's departure nor Whedon's overtaking. Who will be doing these reshoots?

Great work.

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Posted by Socrates Johnson

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:41 pm to BlacknGold

I wonder if the whole Batgirl thing was just a smokescreen to get him in the fold to then do this?

When hired, he said (emphasis added by me):

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We weren't even talking about Batgirl -- it came up as part of another conversation and then we all got so excited that the movie suddenly appeared. So that's a really good sign to me. It wasn't a slot they were trying to fill. We all just started talking about her and then I couldn't stop. So, that's a good feeling.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:44 pm to BlacknGold

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Did you even read your own article? Producer Charles Roven himself admits to the reshoots happening, just saying it is not right now due to schedules but they are happening. Also, this is the PRODUCER of the film. Do you think he's going to hint at anything negative about his billion dollar franchise? The article doesn't even mention Snyder's departure nor Whedon's overtaking. Who will be doing these reshoots?

Did you even read your link? There haven't been massive reshoots and the movie hasn't already been "remade". The reshoots are scheduled, they haven't already taken place as you link "reports".

And the article doesn't mention Whedon's reshoots because it came out prior to yesterday's announcement. Your story was debunked a week ago, yet you're still going with it.

And while a producer may have some bias, he's an actual person. He's not an "unnamed insider". The reshoots didn't take place yet. That's not a spin, that's reality.

Posted by TeddyPadillac

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:05 pm to colorchangintiger

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You're right, Warner Brothers and Disney are not competitors in anyway. Neither are DC and Marvel.

Sure they are competitors, but it's not like one loses money b/c of the other one.
A movie doesn't make more or less money b/c of it's competition. It makes more or less money on how good it is on it's own.
Just b/c Justice League does well doesn't mean the next Marvel movie will suffer b/c of it, or vice versa.

People don't have some allotted budget on how many movies they see. If a movie is good, people will see it.
There were idiots that said Star Wars was stupid for coming out in December. As if people give a shite what weekend a movie comes out. If it's good, or in high demand, people will see it no matter what.

If anything DC wants MC to do well, and vice versa, when it comes to movies, just to keep the comic book genre going strong. where they really compete, is with the merchandise. But there again, if a kid likes Batman, he'll get Batman toys, and if he likes Spiderman, he'll get those too.

No one has to buy a movie ticket, or merchandise. They do so b/c they like the product. That's not really competition. When you're AC goes out, you have to buy a new AC. Trane and Carrier are competing for your business. You will pick one, and only one.

Posted by BlacknGold

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:27 pm to Fewer Kilometers

Friend, the film wrapped last October. It's a big movie, let's say we give it 4 months for the director's rough cut to the studio. That's January. What do you think has been the feeling for the past 4 months?

These rumors started months ago and these events are only supporting those rumors. As Socrates Johnson pointed out, Whedon was talking with WB long before this announcement. Also, if you need more reshoots 8 months after wrapping, what does that tell you?

How much smoke do you need to choke on before you see fire?

Posted by Fewer Kilometers

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:42 pm to BlacknGold

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These rumors started months ago and these events are only supporting those rumors. As Socrates Johnson pointed out, Whedon was talking with WB long before this announcement. Also, if you need more reshoots 8 months after wrapping, what does that tell you?

You have no idea what Whedon was discussing with WB. It could've been about projects entirely outside of the DCEU. And as for reshoots, those are commonplace. You've hatched up this conspiracy theory and anchored it to some poor girl's suicide. Take a step back man.

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Posted by BlacknGold

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:03 pm to Fewer Kilometers

It is a theory. With a lot of evidence. It was there before Snyder leaving/being fired. This just adds to it. Your opinion is also a theory that is going on the words of people involved in the project and have incentive to be biased. Believe what you will.

I'll stick with the R&M theme

Posted by joeyb147

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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:33 pm to BaddestAndvari

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look at my post above you, extremely militant conservatives can't stand that he's an outspoken liberal... it's sad really

It all goes back to the hilarious zombie video from 4 years ago, and his dislike of Trump their supreme leader

eh, for being a "feminist", he's said plenty of horrible shite on social media about women who happen to have different philosophies than him

and he also used teen girls with cancer to take a shot at republicans

oh yeah, and this gem about being grateful his mother is dead

This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 4:41 pm

Posted by BlacknGold

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Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers

So the JL "standard reshoots" have been going on for 2 months and are costing $25M. these are not your "get a few pick up shots and transitions." Please let me hear more of the Snyder apologists believe that Snyder wasnt going to be fired before. The PR smokescreen just got thicker.

LINK

eta: I feel like I should spell it out even further for some of the more obtuse deniers. They are digitally editing out Cavill's fricking mustache because he contractually cannot shave it for his role in Mission Impossible. But everything is fine.

This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 3:07 pm

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Posted by RLDSC FAN

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Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:07 pm to BlacknGold

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Please let me hear more of the Snyder apologists believe that Snyder wasnt going to be fired before. The PR smokescreen just got thicker.

Are you saying Snyder was going to be fired during filming? I think everyone knows that JL was probably his last film with DC. To me it seems like they're moving away from his vision and doing a soft reboot.