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Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:08 pm to tduecen
They complain that they didn't have any blacks nominated, then there will be an unwritten "quota" for minority nominations, then a person of color will win, then they'll get mad when people say they won because of their skin color.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:18 pm to Breesus
This is a pretty good chart for everyone on each side of the issue...
From an Economist article:
In fact, as our analysis of film casts and awards shows, the number of black actors winning Oscars in this century has been pretty much in line with the size of America's overall black population. But this does not mean Hollywood has no problems of prejudice. As the data show, it clearly does.
Oscar nominations have not dramatically under-represented black actors. Instead, they have greatly over-represented white ones. Blacks are 12.6% of the American population, and 10% of Oscar nominations since 2000 have gone to black actors. But just 3% of nominations have gone to their Hispanic peers (16% of the population), 1% to those with Asian backgrounds, and 2% to those of other heritage (see chart).
Black actors get speaking roles in rough proportion to their percentage of America’s population, according to a study of 600 top films from 2007-2013 at the Annenberg Center for Communication and Journalism. (See “film roles” in the chart above.) Again, Latinos and Asians do much worse. But blacks are under-represented in the roles that count for the Oscars, getting just 9% of the top roles since 2000, according to our own analysis. (We define “top roles” as the top three names on the cast-list on IMDb, an online film database, in films with a rating of 7.5 or greater, an American box-office gross of at least $10m, and which were neither animated nor in a foreign language.)
The underlined bold part is really the basis for this and stretching this argument to affirmative action...
The article states, African-Americans are adequately represented in Hollywood based on their population size, while Latinos (Hispanic Americans buy 25% of the nation’s cinema tickets) and Asians are not
...but the complaint is - African-Americans aren't getting Oscar-bait roles...
Everyone gets a trophy syndrome.
In a purely, capitalist business like Hollywood, choices are made for a myriad of reasons...mostly financial and box-office draw...that are beyond control of societal wants.
For most of the past 15 years, the Academy has largely judged what has been put in front of them: minority actors land 15% of top roles, 15% of nominations and 17% of wins. Once up for top roles, black actors do well, converting 9% of top roles into 10% of best-actor nominations and 15% of the coveted golden statuettes, a bit above their share of the general population.
From an Economist article:
In fact, as our analysis of film casts and awards shows, the number of black actors winning Oscars in this century has been pretty much in line with the size of America's overall black population. But this does not mean Hollywood has no problems of prejudice. As the data show, it clearly does.
Oscar nominations have not dramatically under-represented black actors. Instead, they have greatly over-represented white ones. Blacks are 12.6% of the American population, and 10% of Oscar nominations since 2000 have gone to black actors. But just 3% of nominations have gone to their Hispanic peers (16% of the population), 1% to those with Asian backgrounds, and 2% to those of other heritage (see chart).
Black actors get speaking roles in rough proportion to their percentage of America’s population, according to a study of 600 top films from 2007-2013 at the Annenberg Center for Communication and Journalism. (See “film roles” in the chart above.) Again, Latinos and Asians do much worse. But blacks are under-represented in the roles that count for the Oscars, getting just 9% of the top roles since 2000, according to our own analysis. (We define “top roles” as the top three names on the cast-list on IMDb, an online film database, in films with a rating of 7.5 or greater, an American box-office gross of at least $10m, and which were neither animated nor in a foreign language.)
The underlined bold part is really the basis for this and stretching this argument to affirmative action...
The article states, African-Americans are adequately represented in Hollywood based on their population size, while Latinos (Hispanic Americans buy 25% of the nation’s cinema tickets) and Asians are not
...but the complaint is - African-Americans aren't getting Oscar-bait roles...
Everyone gets a trophy syndrome.
In a purely, capitalist business like Hollywood, choices are made for a myriad of reasons...mostly financial and box-office draw...that are beyond control of societal wants.
For most of the past 15 years, the Academy has largely judged what has been put in front of them: minority actors land 15% of top roles, 15% of nominations and 17% of wins. Once up for top roles, black actors do well, converting 9% of top roles into 10% of best-actor nominations and 15% of the coveted golden statuettes, a bit above their share of the general population.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:25 pm to Baloo
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I don't know about y'all, but my neighborhood isn't all white, so why should my entertainment be?
Do you not watch sports too? That should round out your diverse entertainment desires.
In all seriousness, you bring up a good point about unintentional biases. That's part of what some of the complaints have been about. They claim that black writers and their stories continually get shot down. This leads to most writers being white, who will be more likely to unintentionally write a story for white actors. It's simply a matter of writing about what you know.
I do think movie actors as a whole are becoming gradually more diverse. However, this has very little to do with being PC. It's about being able to make more money internationally.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:33 pm to Bmath
So what to the chart, 73% of the actors are white, only 12.5% are black. So its obvious where the majority is coming from. So dumb.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:35 pm to JinFL
What's sad is the number of white people afraid of their shadows in positions of importance who won't call bullshite bullshite.
All the constant unending whining overshadows when someone may actually have a beef about something.
Hell there are un-nominated white people who probably feel overlooked but they don't have the crutch of being black so they can blame all their shortcomings on that.
All the constant unending whining overshadows when someone may actually have a beef about something.
Hell there are un-nominated white people who probably feel overlooked but they don't have the crutch of being black so they can blame all their shortcomings on that.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 6:36 pm
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