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re: Westworld S01 E09: "The Well-Tempered Clavier"

Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:14 pm to
So tell me what is right and wrong:

- William is in an older timeline
-------- Proven by fact the Hosts he massacred were all the older model robotic ones and the picture of his fiancé

- William is MIB
-------- That knife he held to Logan’s throat is the same knife and he clearly snapped
-------- Or is Logan the MIB?

- The older episode scenes with Bernard talking to Dolores about the maze were actually flashbacks to when it was Arnold telling that to Dolores

- Dolores killed Arnold (allegedly)



Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

- William is MIB
-------- That knife he held to Logan’s throat is the same knife and he clearly snapped
-------- Or is Logan the MIB?


Given MIB's cruelty to Dolores, I can't believe it's William. Logan seems pretty likely.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16047 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:21 pm to
Well going off of what others have said like how Delores has multiple guns hidden throughout the farm and there could be multiple knives like that or it coud be Logan who uses Williams knife as a sign of remembrance. (See the problem with assumptions guys, they can lead anywhere).
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:25 pm to
Also, have we talked about how the MIB said to Wyatt's girl (the hot one) something like "haven't seen you in a while, thought they retired you"...

That is the same host that greeted William at WestWorld and tried to frick him before he went in the park.












Bonus points, she is Elon Musk's ex-wife:



Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Bonus points, she is Elon Musk's ex-wife


Bonus bonus points. She is Elon Musk's double-ex wife.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:36 pm to
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Bonus bonus points. She is Elon Musk's double-ex wife.



11 billion can afford lots of divorces
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:37 pm to
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Bonus bonus points. She is Elon Musk's double-ex wife.


So, did she get half in the first divorce, then half of Elon's remaining half in the second?

Beautiful and loaded!
Posted by thebhamdawgfan
The Magic City
Member since Mar 2011
660 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:14 pm to
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Am I missing any?


Maeve v MIB

Revenge.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59650 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

quote:
- William is MIB
-------- That knife he held to Logan’s throat is the same knife and he clearly snapped
-------- Or is Logan the MIB?


Given MIB's cruelty to Dolores, I can't believe it's William. Logan seems pretty likely.



MIB is Logan. William is out there somewhere. I think he is the leader of Ghost Nation
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
In Teddy's flashback, "Wyatt" kills "the General". If Dolores is Wyatt, is Arnold the General?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:22 pm to
Yes
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
Then Dolores turns the gun on herself. Who stops her?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:24 pm to
No one. She's done it before
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:28 pm to
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the fact is it wasn't clever editing it was just more clever than me


FIFY
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:28 pm to
The actress posted this on Instagram. Dolores in 3 fictional characters. #3 is Wyatt

Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Given MIB's cruelty to Dolores, I can't believe it's William. Logan seems pretty likely.

Billy seems to have turned dark (killed all the soldiers) and told Logan to F off.

I do agree that in general it seems a stretch for him to rape Dolores after his affection towards her but it isn't a huge leap to say he has changed to the bad side.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:41 pm to
We assume he raped her I don't think he did
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Billy seems to have turned dark (killed all the soldiers) and told Logan to F off.

I do agree that in general it seems a stretch for him to rape Dolores after his affection towards her but it isn't a huge leap to say he has changed to the bad side.


Can't disagree with any of that. Show keeps you guessing.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22765 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:22 pm to
He didn't rape her, this is yet another trope the writers are using to throw viewers off. All we saw was the barn door close and he said time to get reacquainted.

I believe he was doing something to try to jog her memory or something, maybe cutting open her stomach again or something, but I highly doubt he raped her.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:23 pm to
I'm dying right now

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