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re: Walking Dead Season 3 (NON Spoiler edition, speculation only)
Posted on 3/19/12 at 3:55 pm to udtiger
Posted on 3/19/12 at 3:55 pm to udtiger
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Bear in mind there have been pandemics before, that have decimated the human race (bubonic plague, pneumonic plague, Spanish influenza) and, invariably, there are people that will have natural immunities to the disease. There's no reason to believe that will not be the case with this either.
was thinking about this earlier, and the thought of an immune baby crossed my mind, sort of an idol for humanity's hope, but then how would they know that the baby is free of the zombie causing virus? It's not as if they can go back to the CDC.
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 3:57 pm to uway
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I'd bet on there being at least one or two former employees roaming it on the down low. Would make sense for them to return there after ZA though you'd think most or all would have left on ZDay.
The idea of going to a prison when Z day happens isn't to high on my list
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:02 pm to LoneStarTiger
Thethe "is the baby infected" story line has potential. We aren't sure ALL grownups are infected though and it's entirely conceivable there are some who are immune.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:04 pm to Cold Pizza
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Thethe "is the baby infected" story line has potential. We aren't sure ALL grownups are infected though and it's entirely conceivable there are some who are immune.
well, the people we are following are "immune".
The virus kills people. But it hasn't killed them.
After you're dead... your heart stops pumping and your immunity system ceases to work.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:05 pm to Cold Pizza
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Thethe "is the baby infected" story line has potential. We aren't sure ALL grownups are infected though and it's entirely conceivable there are some who are immune.
But thats the issue. We currently have no way of checking who is immune or who has potential as a carrier of the infection. It's not like another CDC is located in Georgia.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:06 pm to coloradoBengal
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well, the people we are following are "immune". The virus kills people. But it hasn't killed them. After you're dead... your heart stops pumping and your immunity system ceases to work.
I thought Jenner said they are all infected with the virus that turns them into zombies after they die.
the reason they arent zombies is simply because they just havent died yet (obviously)
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:07 pm to coloradoBengal
The fact that everyone is infected shouldn't really affect the future of the human race as some suggest. The true effects of the virus don't occur until death anyway.
If people start dying of no known cause, or turning before dying, then I'll change my opinion.
If people start dying of no known cause, or turning before dying, then I'll change my opinion.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:08 pm to LoneStarTiger
quote:this is my understanding of the situation as well.
I thought Jenner said they are all infected with the virus that turns them into zombies after they die.
the reason they arent zombies is simply because they just havent died yet (obviously)
Everyone is a carrier.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:15 pm to JBeam
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yea the likely hood of that prison being empty is very low and as a viewer I would be pissed if it was empty or just had some nice family trying to hold up in there.
I'm thinking it might be the group of guys who were with Randall that will be occupying the prison. One of them will recognize Rick and all hell will break loose. This is speculation and nothing more.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:16 pm to coloradoBengal
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well, the people we are following are "immune".
The virus kills people. But it hasn't killed them.
After you're dead... your heart stops pumping and your immunity system ceases to work.
That's not true. The virus doesn't kill anyone. The virus doesn't become active until you die.
People likely have never died from the bites in and of themselves. People most likely died from infection and disease associated with the bites. Think of the diseases that decomposing bodies carry.
In most zombie universes zombi-ism is always airborne or a result of radiation in the air...meaning everyone is infected. Think Night of the Living Dead.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:18 pm to thedogman
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I'm thinking it might be the group of guys who were with Randall that will be occupying the prison. One of them will recognize Rick and all hell will break loose. This is speculation and nothing more.
Doubtful. Randall said his people were about five miles away. Rick said he had been driving the truck on empty for an hour; I would assume they are about 30-60 miles away from the Farm now. It is doubtful the prison is where Randall's group is.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:18 pm to thedogman
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guys who were with Randall that will be occupying the prison. One of them will recognize Rick and all hell will break loose
The only ones who saw Rick were the ones he killed in the bar. I can see that group being part of the "prison folks" though. Maybe a group that had been sent out to forage or something. Would fit in with what Randall said about the group being pretty rough and the rape incident he spoke about under torture.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:19 pm to MStant1
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People likely have never died from the bites in and of themselves. People most likely died from infection and disease associated with the bites. Think of the diseases that decomposing bodies carry.
Hold on there, Hoss. Serious? I totally thought like Morgan's wife got sick and died right away from the disease. And what about Amy?
Edit: I meant Amy. And I just looked it up. Morgan's wife died of some "infection" and Amy died of blood loss. Hrmm. Interesting.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:21 pm to dedfella
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The only ones who saw Rick were the ones he killed in the bar. I can see that group being part of the "prison folks" though. Maybe a group that had been sent out to forage or something. Would fit in with what Randall said about the group being pretty rough and the rape incident he spoke about under torture.
I'm currently trying to think what could happen after they've been at the prison for awhile. The group as a whole doesn't have alot to defend themselves from other survivors and it would be my opinion that the women would be targeted first.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:22 pm to MStant1
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Doubtful. Randall said his people were about five miles away. Rick said he had been driving the truck on empty for an hour; I would assume they are about 30-60 miles away from the Farm now. It is doubtful the prison is where Randall's group is.
Maybe the zombie herd came through and they (Randall's group) had to move as well. I just don't think we have heard the last of this group. Rick and crew have killed 3 of their members now.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:25 pm to JBeam
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The group as a whole doesn't have alot to defend themselves from other survivors and it would be my opinion that the women would be targeted first.
Yep. They are going in basically defenseless unless they do some serious foraging/looting before they go to the prison. It will be interesting to see how they present themselves to another group.
Even though a prison would be easier to defend than the farm it would still take a pretty good number of folks to do it right.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:37 pm to dedfella
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I'm thinking it might be the group of guys who were with Randall that will be occupying the prison
Maybe, but Randall said his group was 5 miles away, and when the SUV was running out of gas Rick said he was on fumes the last hour. Unless they are going crazy slow they should be at least 40 to 60 miles away from the farm.
That's not to say the Randall group didn't also find the prison.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:42 pm to CAGator
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Maybe the zombie herd came through and they (Randall's group) had to move as well. I just don't think we have heard the last of this group. Rick and crew have killed 3 of their members now.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:42 pm to coloradoBengal
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Hold on there, Hoss. Serious? I totally thought like Morgan's wife got sick and died right away from the disease. And what about Jackie?
I mispoke. I meant that the virus doesn't kill people, but bites can.
It's often assumed in the zombie genre that the bite is what causes the zombie infection because people generally die after the bite, then come back as a zombie. It's only logical that people think that.
However the virus itself doesn't kill people as evidenced by everyone being infected yet alive. People are most likely dying from the bites due to infection and disease associated with being bit by a decomposing body.
People being bit by a zombie bite don't necessarily have to die. If the infection can be controlled I would assume that they could live through a bite. However, in the apocolyptic world it's not like meds are readily available.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 4:44 pm to CAGator
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Maybe, but Randall said his group was 5 miles away, and when the SUV was running out of gas Rick said he was on fumes the last hour. Unless they are going crazy slow they should be at least 40 to 60 miles away from the farm.
That's not to say the Randall group didn't also find the prison.
I'm not buying the Randall group. We've seen little of them. They could be written out for an infinite number of other groups at this point. And there is no way that Rick's group ends up in the prison, with that kind of group. We already know what they do and are capable of.
No. Just thinking out loud, but I am betting on a militant/police group of some kind, who has their own leader and their own sense of rules and order. I am not picturing a wild bunch of marauders like Randall's group, but a more organized operation, with a new dictator in charge. Something like General Bethlehem in "The Postman", or perhaps the soldiers at the mansion in "28 Days". They will want the women for breeding, but I don't see them as I would picture Randall's group.
Edit: Also... odds on when we start seeing cannibals? The shorter than we realized timeline is keeping this from being an issue so far I think.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 4:45 pm
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