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re: True Detective - S2:E7 - "Black Maps and Hotel Rooms"

Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48983 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:16 pm to
that's a hell of a summary

it's sad I have to read that to understand wtf is happening in this show
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:40 pm to
If you can't follow the show, that is your problem.

This show has been ramping up from the beginning. Last week was good, tonight was very good and I believe that next week will be excellent.

This is the opposite of last season. And both are quite good.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22473 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

Taylor's character sucked until this episode.



It was a slow build up. Tried telling everyone that like 6 weeks ago
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:50 pm to
Just watched. Great episode. VV has done a very good job in this when the writing didn't handcuff him. The past three episodes have been really good and he has been the best part. I love the score during the final 20 minutes. Outstanding noir feel.

Going to be an all out war next week.

Favorite part tonight was the slow motion glass to the face on blake.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

t was a slow build up. Tried telling everyone that like 6 weeks ago


slow building wasnt the issue. it was shitty, overwrought, try-hard writing with gratuitous heavy-handed exposition. they couldve condensed all of that into two episodes worth of shite. thank god pizzolatto righted the ship

maybe next year he can put together an entire good season
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22473 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:58 pm to
Characters were better in season one, plot is better in season two

these past few episodes have been awesome. A lot to digest but it's all coming together
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:01 am to
i really like vince's story, even though the basis of it is a ripoff of Long Good Friday. CF has been awesome
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51637 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:05 am to
It's funny how last year started and strong and finished weak. This seasons the complete opposite. Let's hope he can bring it all together for a full season next time.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:12 am to
yup
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4917 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:13 am to
Glad I have stayed the course. The last 3 episodes have been awesome. There is still so much going on that I to find myself confused at times, but I expect next week to be a thriller of a finale.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 12:14 am
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22927 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:15 am to
It's a bold move to kill the character that everyone hated and felt didn't bring anything to the show.
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
2805 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:35 am to
the reason VV needs diamonds is because historically diamonds are considered international currency. And he would rather have diamonds than dollars when he flees the country. Plus I assume diamonds are also easier to conceal than $12 mil in cash. If you drop the Jewish Jeweler's cut of the transaction...that leaves $7.2 Millions worth of diamonds that VV's wife has to cram up her snatch and anus.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:41 am to
Pretty clear that casper was murdered for personal reasons....not due to the railway deal...who had a personal reason to murder him? The two orphans? Speculation the secretary may have been the Oster man girl...her brother has to be birdman...someone who maybe we have only seen once...set photographer from the movie set? The car that was burned was from the set correct?
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:44 am to
I watch it, back up a lot of scenes to watch them twice and then listen to a few podcasts through the week. That's the only way I have a clue by the time the next ep comes on. I don't have half a damn clue of some of what was going on tonight other than Ray and Ani hiding out cause they have heat on them and Wood getting drawn out over his gay pics, going Batman and then getting capped. I'm totally lost on what Frank is doing other than trying to disappear while leaving the Russians empty handed with what they have taken from him.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 12:48 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278486 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:54 am to
quote:

If you can't follow the show, that is your problem.



the main problem is that people that havent been featured in the show all season, are all of a sudden very important characters, and they are throwing their names out left and right like we are supposed to know who the frick they are.

dixon, holloway, burris, frickin' stan, and these 2 girls with the diamonds and shite. Yea i makes sense when i have to look up on the internet who these people are. But it shouldnt be that way.


quote:

This is the opposite of last season. And both are quite good.



the opposite as far as the acting and dialogue being absolutely terrible compared to season 1. Thankfully the last 2 episodes have been pretty good.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22473 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 1:02 am to
quote:

I'm totally lost on what Frank is doing other than trying to disappear while leaving the Russians empty handed with what they have taken from him.



huh? That's basically all you need to know

Ray filled Frank on everything that went down in terms of the orgy party and the deals Blake has been doing/getting into.

Fearing for his life, Blake spilled about how the Russians were going to be making a $12 million exchange the following day. Frank knew all he needed to know, killed him, then started plotting a way to take the money (that's why he went to get guns and ammo) then have a plan to trade the money for diamonds and leave the country.

At the end, we see him torching his business so Osef doesn't have jack shite.

Frank is a badass
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33191 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 1:25 am to
Random numbers, you rock!

So I was pretty close on a few things...

Questions:

AB remembers the pedo's face after rolling at party...did she hold back elaborating on his ID because Dad knew him, or did she already name him to Dad, and we just joined to conversation late?

VV has the diamonds already, or he knows where to collect them?

Chances that birdman/orphan brother is someone we already know?

Chances that Pitlor makes another appearance, if only to sing "Jesse's Girl"?

Where can I find a woman like that?
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 1:27 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35278 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 1:37 am to
GD. There's a lot of shite going on in this season. People will definitely not be complaining about the show lacking substance this time around.

I liked this episode. I think the show is coming together nicely. I knew Collin F would be great this year. I can't wait to see the finale.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
749 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 2:41 am to
quote:

Paul was in the army, then with some private militia group (Blackwater). Seems like they did some fricked up shite.


Paul didn't do what the media says he did. I really don't know what that was. He was off having gay sex with his friend for two weeks. He wouldn't come clean because he would have to admit he was gay.

quote:

The Mexican girl was the one Frank was looking for, and the one the Mexican gang found/killed.


I think Frank is going to use the Mexican Gang as his muscle. To take out the guys who Blake told him about who are having the big trade off. Osef will be there as Blake told him. Frank doesn't want the cash which would be a great incentive for the Mexicans. He wants the Diamonds. Now that the deal Frank gave the Mexicans last episode is dead. Because even if Frank hadn't torched the places, they could never get that deal from the Russians. This could be a revenge motive for the Mexicans.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16320 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:31 am to
Just like the end of last season, there will be loose ends for the viewer to decide for himself.
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