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Top 3 All-Time Gross: Will Anything Ever Beat Avatar?

Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37270 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:24 pm
So now that Star Wars has slowed down considerably. let's take a look:

- -Film- --- --Total-- -Dom- ----- --Inter-- ----- -Year--
1 Avatar Fox $2,788.0 $760.5 27.3% $2,027.5 72.7% 2009^
2 Titanic Par. $2,186.8 $658.7 30.1% $1,528.1 69.9% 1997^
3 SW:TFA BV $2,057.2 $931.2 45.3% $1,126.0 54.7% 2015

A few things to point out:

Three Vastly Different Films, the big sequel to the massively popular franchise, the out of the blue (pun intended) blockbuster, and the....period piece? Ha. SW might catch Titanic, it won't catch Avatar, there's no way. But look at that international difference...that is insane. Star Wars is nearly $200 million above #2 domestically, but missed out on larger international success, and Avatar was nearly an entire blockbuster film better than Titanic. That's insane, and let's not throw F7 in there, that's another discussion.

But we've been warned of a shift in film, as studios seek to chase profits, international is where real profits are at. Now, this was said by Spielberg years ago, right after Avatar. So the first question is, how the heck did Avatar do that internationally? The prediction was that as international markets matured movies would get dumber: More CGI, less obvious American actors, less words and a reliance on action/spectacle like sequences. Basically dropping the language barrier from being a problem. Was Avatar the perfect international film for that? Focusing on aliens, with their own language, that EVERYONE had to read?

We can also argue that movies are in fact, bigger, dumber, and less real, there's certainly a case to be made, but those predictions years ago told of all movies going that way. We haven't necessarily seen that to a complete overhaul of the film industry.

Not only that the domestic success of Star Wars is huge, because the true economic value of that property goes well beyond simple movie tickets, and that kind of domestic success, while not as simply put in terms of numbers, is much more controllable and probably valuable.
Posted by Ducyborg
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2012
1191 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:28 pm to
Sure, something will, unless human population starts declining.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115789 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:33 pm to
Its inevitable with inflation.

It will have to be:

1) In 3D so tickets cost more
2) A cultural phenomenon/spectacle
3) A huge hit in China.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:34 pm to
SW beat the original run of Titanic. Titanic was re-released 10 years later, so hen SW is re-released at some point in the future, it will top Titanic. It is highly unlikely to catch Avatar though.

Avatar was a visual experience like the world has never experience before that transcends culture and language. I think the only thing that could top Avatar is a similar evolution in technology coupled with an adventure story. Virtual reality, maybe?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51593 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:34 pm to
Not anytime soon, but with prices rising it's inevitable.

quote:

1 Avatar Fox $2,788.0


That number still boggles my mind.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31585 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:35 pm to
It might take like a badass live version of Akira to do it.

Get the Asian audience hooked, which is huge and if it looks like a blockbuster, people will flock to it over here. Then, it it's actually good, more and more people will go watch it.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18425 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:37 pm to
Three more Avatar movies on the way starting next year.

It's kinda of ridiculous that James Cameron, a great director, has basically done nothing from 1998-2019 except focus on Avatar.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:38 pm to
Avatar II or III
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:39 pm to
Episode 9 will surpass it assuming its decent and ticket prices keep going up.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

It's kinda of ridiculous that James Cameron, a great director, has basically done nothing from 1998-2019 except focus on Avatar.


sure he did

sorry couldn't resist


Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86470 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Its inevitable with inflation.



This.

I think I saw a list like this that did adjust for inflation and gone with the wind was #1 by a good margin.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:23 pm to
TFW won't catch Avatar but it's getting there. If the 2nd movie is great, I could see that or especially Episode IX giving Avatar a run.
Justice League if these movies are done right will cross $2 billion also imo
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:28 pm to
Nothing is remotely close to Gone With the Wind in terms of number of tickets sold. I wonder if anything will ever beat that.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:57 pm to
It truly saddens me that a shitty, hackneyed movie like Avatar is #1. It only encourages shitty hackery.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

It truly saddens me that a shitty, hackneyed movie like Avatar is #1. It only encourages shitty hackery.


This. I'm not saying it's the worst film I've ever watched, but I think it definitely takes the cake when it comes to not-living-up-to-the-hype. Boring, poorly developed characters, a predictable cliche of a plot, and a world that was about as imaginative as Ferngully. Jesus.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 5:57 pm to
You just described TFA
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 6:17 pm to
Also true.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3138 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

It's kinda of ridiculous that James Cameron, a great director, has basically done nothing from 1998-2019 except focus on Avatar.


quote:

$2,788,000,000.00


He MIGHT be on to something here.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35503 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 6:32 pm to
1. Gone with the Wind
2. Avatar
3. Star Wars - A new hope
4. Titanic
5. Sound of music

Adjusted for inflation
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37270 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 9:30 pm to
Eh I know, but most of the record books keep a separate table for that. I'm speaking more to the straight money being made at the time of release and how that correlates to either a current change in film or a future one.
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