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Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:38 pm to Kafka
quote:
1. I Love Lucy -- the sitcom template
2. Dragnet -- the police procedural, still being imitated 60 years later
3. Monday Night Football -- the Roone Arledgization of sports
4. Hill Street Blues
5. The Real World (or whatever it was called; I never watched it) -- the first germ of the reality pandemic
This is the right answer.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:39 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Yes the Norman Lear sitcoms would eventually kill off the fun-around-the-house shows (The Brady Bunch)
I think All in the Family was ground breaking and certainly influential and trail blazing
The Dick Van Dyke Show was the harbinger of what we now call the MTM school: MTM (natch), Bob Newhart, Taxi, Cheers, Frasier
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:45 pm to Kafka
The Twilight Zone has to be on the list.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:47 pm to Kafka
Hill Street had a great Mike Post theme song (ka-ching)..the main thing I remember. Also it being more stark, well-written and cast than pretty much anything at the time.
To throw another influential one out there, I'm trying to think of another quick topic list show before PTI. There's been a sh#t ton of those since.
*just thought of the George Michael (not him) Sports Machine. Different layout but same concept.
To throw another influential one out there, I'm trying to think of another quick topic list show before PTI. There's been a sh#t ton of those since.
*just thought of the George Michael (not him) Sports Machine. Different layout but same concept.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:49 pm to ipodking
quote:it had few imitators and none were big hits
The Twilight Zone has to be on the list
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:29 am to miamitiger
Showtime at the Apollo
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:32 am to Kafka
Shouldn't you change your title to
"The most stolen from TV show ever"?
"The most stolen from TV show ever"?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:49 am to Tiger1242
Survivor was first reality game show. Paved the way for big brother, biggest looser, bachelor, apprentice and such, but no Real World beat it by eight years.
All survivor did was up the stakes and put a prize at the end, but it was the first to do it and it is still going strong and has a loyal following. I being one of those followers.
All survivor did was up the stakes and put a prize at the end, but it was the first to do it and it is still going strong and has a loyal following. I being one of those followers.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:15 am to Kafka
quote:
"Sopranos" fan? "Breaking Bad" binge-watcher? "Mad Men" admirer?
Take a moment to thank "Hill Street Blues."
Sopranos and BB are commonly pushed on this board as GOAT (and for many good reasons) - another one (and, full disclosure, I'm a member of "Team Shield") is The Shield.
The Shield is a direct spiritual successor to HSB in many areas, tone, content and construction - but also because of the involvement of Scott Brazil - although not the showrunner for The Shield - he is arguably the third most important person to the show, after Ryan (creator/showrunner/head writer) and Chiklis. He won Emmys and GGs for his work on HSB and was the supervising producer for the back half of the run. He directed 11 episodes of The Shield before his death, more than any other individual.
However, I tend to agree with you, Kafka, that I Love Lucy is the most influential show in history and it is difficult to name a second place.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:29 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
The Shield
I really really really really really wish Shawn Ryan could get on CBS... I think CBS would be more likely to keep his show on the air til it became a hit.
the story of HSB and other old'er shows just makes me sad about modern day network scheduling. Nowadays if you have half a season of bad ratings you are cut, back in the day they would let things run their course for multiple seasons before giving the axe.. and some of these shows FLOURISHED because of this model.
Just look at PoI for instance, which has actually seen ratings increases, even though it's mostly serial in it's story telling approach.
(btw - PoI has a lot of influence from HSB as well.. it's the most HSB show on currently airing TV right now imho)
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:00 am to Kafka
quote:
The Real World (or whatever it was called; I never watched it) -- the first germ of the reality pandemic
legit point, but I would argue Battle of the Network Stars is predecessor to just as much awful shite poluting the airwaves
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:07 am to Kafka
quote:
1. I Love Lucy -- the sitcom template
perhaps, but The Honeymooners was created at the same time (in a sketch format), and went to 30 minutes a few years after Lucy did(1955).
It depicted real people in a more honest and edgy way years ahead of its time. Creatively speaking, it is way better than I Love Lucy, although influence is a slightly different question. Id submit that The Honeymooners was more influential on good sitcoms, and Lucy on ridiculous silly ones.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:15 am to TigerRad
The Honeymooners was originally a sketch and didn't expand to a half hour until later
IMHO ILL established the model for the 3 camera sitcom almost immediately, while The Honeymooners was still being worked out. The latter didn't really hit its stride until Audrey Meadows became Alice and the show switched to CBS in 1952 -- a year after Lucy went on the air.
They're both great shows. Lucy stressed physical comedy and farce, while The Honeymooners emphasized character and personal interaction.
IMHO ILL established the model for the 3 camera sitcom almost immediately, while The Honeymooners was still being worked out. The latter didn't really hit its stride until Audrey Meadows became Alice and the show switched to CBS in 1952 -- a year after Lucy went on the air.
They're both great shows. Lucy stressed physical comedy and farce, while The Honeymooners emphasized character and personal interaction.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:42 am to Kafka
quote:
They're both great shows. Lucy stressed physical comedy and farce, while The Honeymooners emphasized character and personal interaction.
:kige:
I bet if you asked all the great TV writer and producers of the 70s and later, they would list both as major influences.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:45 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
1. I Love Lucy -- the sitcom template
2. Dragnet -- the police procedural, still being imitated 60 years later
3. Monday Night Football -- the Roone Arledgization of sports
4. Hill Street Blues
5. The Real World (or whatever it was called; I never watched it) -- the first germ of the reality pandemic
This is the right answer.
this is really spot on.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:55 am to Kafka
Nobody mentioned M.A.S.H, yet? Weird...
That show was groundbreaking and iconic.
That show was groundbreaking and iconic.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:07 am to Loathor
Andy Griffith
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:35 pm to vuvuzela
I Love Lucy
The Flintstones
Star Trek
Scooby Doo Where Are You
All in the Family
Hill Street Blues
Twin Peaks
COPS
The Simpsons
The Flintstones
Star Trek
Scooby Doo Where Are You
All in the Family
Hill Street Blues
Twin Peaks
COPS
The Simpsons
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