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re: The more I watch Tombstone

Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24080 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:58 pm to
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Tell us about Ringo and doc's historical duel first.


Yeah, what do they figure, that Ringo killed himself? Also, wasn't Doc in Colorado for a court case at the time of Ringo's death?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:04 pm to
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If you like seeing every western cliche in one movie, you will love Tombstone.



I don't want to come across as judgmental, but who doesn't enjoy seeing every western cliche in one movie? People without souls, for sure, but nobody else.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:43 pm to
Greatest movie of all time. Right above Road House.

Killers films ranked:

Tombstone
Top Gun
Ghost and the Darkness

Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:43 pm to
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the perfect film



Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103175 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 11:08 pm to
Entertaining but cartoonish. 5/10
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36103 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 11:50 pm to
This is so weird:

quote:

After Cosmatos' death in 2005, Russell claimed in the True West Magazine interview that Cosmatos had in fact ghost-directed the movie on Russell's behalf. Russell claimed he gave Cosmatos a shot list every night for the next day, and developed a "secret sign language" on set to exert influence.[8]
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19257 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 7:46 am to
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I do not understand the fascination with this movie


That explains much.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79325 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:09 am to
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My friends and I could basically recite the entire movie from memory in college. Watching it was a great way to fill that space between classes and drinking.



This describes every fraternity guy I know from college. It was probably on in our house 3/4 times a week.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:17 am to
I'm still amazed at how a broken down drunk was faster than Ringo.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:07 am to
While it is undoubtedly awesome, that has to be the most cliche-filled movie I have ever seen. Cue the rolling tumbleweeds....
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20805 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:35 am to
Tombstone is a great movie. It has a bigger scale than most westerns tend to have. It's a compelling story with great acting where the good guys just go scorched earth. Perfect combination.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:38 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34069 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:39 am to
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Killers films ranked:

Tombstone
Top Gun
Ghost and the Darkness



I get weird looks when I tell people that I think The Saint is very underrated. Had the pleasure of telling him that one time too.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:21 pm to
It's a damn fine movie
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:38 pm to
The gunfight in that movie was pretty accurate. Close quarters and around 30 shots fired in total.


No

Back drop to the story:

Behan and Josephine are to be married, Behan had even gone to see her parents in Cal a few months before the gunfight.

Behan had made a deal with Wyatt on the Sheriffs office, which Behan had broken.

Wyatt starts seeing Josephine, just after the deal was broken by Behan (Behan had a wondering eye). Behan and Josephine had lived together a number of months before this and she had even worked and lived with the name Mrs. Johnny Behan.

There are 4 factions in town, not 2, Behan was in with 2 of those.

Wyatt gets his job by political connects with the governor, the governor is also playing the Cowboy side and is a land deal arranged by Ike.


Ike was turning state witness on the stage robbery on the 3 cowboys, the cowboys get word and this is why Ike is in town drinking. Ike thinks Wyatt had something to do with word getting around about him (it was not, Behan had the reason).

So the beginning of the walk to the OK Carroll:


Walking to the fight, Wyatt and Virgil where in the lead of Doc and Morgan by 10-15 feet on the side walk. This is seen by many as they made their way to the fight.

Doc and Morgan where talking to each other on the way to the fight and like Josephine said in her book they had made up their minds to end it that day (paraphrased of what she wrote). It was also overheard by people in the bar as they (Earps' and Doc) made their way to the fight.

Morgan and Doc had their pistols out when the fight started (stated to by many). Wyatt and Virgil had just come to disarm the Cowboys, that quickly changed:

Doc had his pistol out and fried all the rounds in it, then put the shotgun to shoulder and shoot the 2 barrels. Wyatt and Josephine confirm this information.

When Virgil says "Hold on, I don't want that!", he was speaking to Doc and Morgan; as both had just cocked their pistols.

The first 2 shots are Doc's and Morgan's, which Wyatt told Josephine later in life.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Col reb 2011
#38
Member since Apr 2013
1614 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:06 pm to
U might be right but I don't care.. Movie was good and I hate watching movies I've seen more than once
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:11 pm to
It is a great movie that gets better with age. When I saw it as a kid it was just a cool cowboy flick but it's actually a great movie regardless of genre.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19257 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:27 pm to
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I'm still amazed at how a broken down drunk was faster than Ringo.


Poor soul was just too high strung.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:37 pm to
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I'm still amazed at how a broken down drunk was faster than Ringo.



Well, Ringo was with the Beatles. Alcohol has nothing on copious amounts of acid when it comes to screwing up a gunfighter's perceptions.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:02 pm to
You seem knowledgeable on this topic but the little ive read seems to have a lot of who you want to believe and not a lot of definite facts.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:37 pm to
Ringo was killed by Wyatt, not Doc.

Wyatt got him with a rifle shot to the head as Ringo tried to get across the creek running back from a bad spot in cross fire.

This is what Josephine heard from a number of people there that day.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 8:44 pm
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