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re: 'Sound of Freedom' scores 92% Rotten Tomatoes rating ahead of July 4 premiere
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Any data that doesn't conform to your in/out mythos is going to be dismissed, because it doesn't fit in your perceived worldview. This same data existed while Trump was in office, too.
Please stop posting your political opinions in this thread.
It’s boring. And tiresome.
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:But so many things do fit into it, Jake.
because it doesn't fit in your perceived worldview.
Pizza, anyone?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:40 am to blueboy
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frick off.
It's a serious question. Why are you against focusing on the population I have specifically discussed in this thread?
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Wanna talk about Damien Echols some more, Jake?
I have very rarely engaged you on this subject because of your lack of objectivity and my lack of desire of the subject itself.
EVEN in the WORST scenario, it's not a big deal. Richard Ramriez claimed to be running a Satanic Cult, too. I have never argued small cells of pathological actors haven't claimed to be occult Satanists. It's a small population that often has mental illness and a lack of true sincerity.
Just like how I fully admit there are very rare cases of "Stranger danger" and children being taken and sexually exploited. I mean look at Elizabeth Smart. That doesn't mean the meme exists on any real, statistical level, and certainly doesn't appear at the rate of the mythos.
So feel free to talk about Damien Echols all you want. It doesn't really matter in the larger discussion I'm having.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:42 am to blueboy
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But so many things do fit into it, Jake.
Pizza, anyone?
You just posted an example that doesn't fit (in the most vapid internet rhetoric imaginable).
Where did Peter Bright use "pizza" symbolism in his pathology? Clearly he's a projecting POS, but if your argument is about "pizza", then his example should involve that coded language.
Perhaps if your argument was more than posting a .png, it would have more meat to it to answer these questions.
*ETA: I can't wait for you to selectively quote from this post to use more intellectual dishonesty to try to spin me into being a projecting POS, too.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:43 am to bamadontcare
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Please stop posting your political opinions in this thread.
OK I will stop posting about "Sex Trafficking" being the new "War on Drugs". That's the only political point I've made.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That's how I'd feel about it too, if it weren't for the fact that Hollywood, knowing all of the evidence, still moved heaven and earth and produced not one, not two but three 'documentaries' (the third produced by Peter Jackson) trying to get the murderers off.
I have never argued small cells of pathological actors haven't claimed to be occult Satanists. It's a small population that often has mental illness and a lack of true sincerity.
But yeah that's off topic.
As to the movie, I'm not sure why you'd post so passionately about partisanship in a thread about a movie you haven't seen. Nowhere in the promos have I seen anything about liberals or democrats being the perps. It's about an actual case of child exploitation. Kids do get abducted. It is a problem, and no, it's not just closed-minded parents who won't accept their gay kids. In fact, if the kids are gay, I'd say it's already too late.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:The point is that he was an outspoken critic/basher of the pizza theory, and was subsequently busted for being a pedo. When the people espousing your exact narrative turn out o be pedos, you should be concerned.
Where did Peter Bright use "pizza" symbolism in his pathology?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Any data that doesn't conform to your in/out mythos is going to be dismissed, because it doesn't fit in your perceived worldview. This same data existed while Trump was in office, too.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:28 am to blueboy
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That's how I'd feel about it too, if it weren't for the fact that Hollywood, knowing all of the evidence, still moved heaven and earth and produced not one, not two but three 'documentaries' (the third produced by Peter Jackson) trying to get the murderers off.
I think the HBO series alone was 3 sets and others were made.
That isn't indicative of much. Bob Dylan wrote "The Hurricane" which became a movie that was utterly preposterous to defend the main character. Was there an occult reasoning for that, too?
The 3 kids were railroaded and the state did not have the evidence to prosecute them, legally. The movies were about that paradigm. Whether they did it or not is a different discussion. Hollywood loves that shite. Hell, society does. Remember Kony? Same "savior" meme.
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I'm not sure why you'd post so passionately about partisanship in a thread about a movie you haven't seen.
My only response about the movie was actually mirroring your comments on page 1.
My main argument started in response to this quote:
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Ah yes, definitely be concerned about the people concerned about pedophilia. Wouldn't want to endanger the pedophiles.
Which was in response to the review in OP.
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Kids do get abducted. It is a problem, and no, it's not just closed-minded parents who won't accept their gay kids.
Yes it happens, but at an incredibly lower rate than with LGBTQ kids. Now you're trying to argue with legitimate facts that really aren't in dispute. I have already posted the paradigm and it's agnostic to LGBTQ issues, it just happens that the conflict involved with LGBTQ issues increases the chance of the paradigm.
Sex trafficking is primarily (not exclusively) an issue of homeless children from shitty homes. Full stop. Always has been since humans formed society.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:31 am to blueboy
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The point is that he was an outspoken critic/basher of the pizza theory, and was subsequently busted for being a pedo
I said he was a projecting POS.
You brought up "pizza". Where did he?
If he didn't, then "pizza" is irrelevant and it's a discussion of why guilty people project.
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When the people espousing your exact narrative
Strawman.
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you should be concerned.
I don't concern myself with ad hom strawman "rhetoric".
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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The 3 kids were railroaded and the state did not have the evidence to prosecute them, legally
Holy shite, they had a fricking mountain of evidence, including confessions in which details were given that could not have been known by anyone in the GP.quote:Yeah, definitely the same thing.
Remember Kony?
quote:Okay, so why all of the fervor? This is a movie about one such case, and the people who made it have access to a lot more reference materials than you do.
Yes it happens
Also, remember that NAMBLA was founded by two guys who were prominent gay activists and members of the Socialist Workers Party. The pedo issue as a whole is definitely left-weighted.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:In literally all of his articles and tweets?
You brought up "pizza". Where did he?
quote:Both you and he have claimed that 'pizza' being a pedo code is a right wing conspiracy theory, and noting more. I showed you last page that 'pizza' being a code is in fact a thing.
When the people espousing your exact narrative
Strawman.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:44 am to blueboy
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Holy shite, they had a fricking mountain of evidence, including confessions in which details were given that could not have been known by anyone in the GP.
And they didn't provide exculpatory evidence, which severely damages their case. Again, they didn't have the evidence, which is why they let them all out with Alford pleas.
That is a different discussion of whether or not they did it.
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Yeah, definitely the same thing.
People in large groups rally around memetic topics all the time. Hollywood is no different (and exploits this).
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Okay, so why all of the fervor
Because it's statistically almost 0 and, even within that minutia of data, is almost exclusively from familial or friend groups. Again, not the trafficking being promoted as a threat.
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This is a movie about one such case
In another country. From an unreliable narrator.
But my comments weren't discussing the movie itself.
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the people who made it have access to a lot more reference materials than you do.
They also have a lot more motivation to skew the truth for personal gain.
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The pedo issue as a whole is definitely left-weighted.
[img]laughs in Catholicism, Boy Scouts, and Southern Baptist Church[/img]
Now you get to spin how those were really some secret Leftist infiltration in non-Leftist organizations.
Child exploitation is politically agnostic.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:44 am to blueboy
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In literally all of his articles and tweets?
No. In his pathology. Where did he reference it?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:47 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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By your sarcasm, you obviously don’t know: this fantastic movie was filmed 4 years ago. It was not allowed to be released by the powers in Hollywood.
Yet here it is.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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And they didn't provide exculpatory evidence, which severely damages their case
they had physical evidence and numerous confession, both to police as well as several other individuals the killers knew. Arkansas let them go because they knew they'd be caught up in lawfare until the end of time, funded by the same people who funded the multiple docs. quote:It's really not, and even if it was, I still don't know why you so energetically try to get other people to shrug it off.
Because it's statistically almost 0
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In another country. From an unreliable narrator.
Now you're attacking the source?This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because indy movies about child se trafficking are known to be huge blockbusters.
They also have a lot more motivation to skew the truth for personal gain.
quote:No, I get to laugh at you while knowing we both grew up in catholic S La. Those catholics are all a buncha conservatives, huh?
[img]laughs in Catholicism, Boy Scouts, and Southern Baptist Church[/img]
Now you get to spin how those were really some secret Leftist infiltration in non-Leftist organizations.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:56 am to blueboy
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Arkansas let them go because they knew they'd be caught up in lawfare until the end of time, funded by the same people who funded the multiple docs.
Lawfare?
The State's case being hurt by not delivering exculpatory evidence is a bedrock principle of our criminal justice system.
Miskelly's confession is worthless.
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I still don't know why you so energetically try to get other people to shrug it off.
To focus on the real population of victims?
Again, why won't you?
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Now you're attacking the source?
Well an anecdote isn't the same as large datasets, if that's what you're asking. Serious question: is there any objective evidence about this incident from disinterested parties? I don't know that much about it.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:58 am to blueboy
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Because indy movies about child se trafficking are known to be huge blockbusters.
This is more than a movie. How many tens of millions of dollars has his NGO received?
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No, I get to laugh at you while knowing we both grew up in catholic S La.
At no point have I ever been Catholic
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Those catholics are all a buncha conservatives, huh?
Comparatively? Yes. Especially when the abuse was going on.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:They had a conviction, based on physical evidence and multiple witnesses testimony.
The State's case being hurt
quote:If you say so?
Miskelly's confession is worthless.
quote:Oh right, I forgot your deep concern for gay-rejecting parents.
To focus on the real population of victims?
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I don't know that much about it.
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