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re: Oppenheimer | Official Reaction Thread | Spoilers
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:08 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:08 pm to RollTide1987
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Nolan still hasn’t learned how to balance the sound and dialogue for whatever reason and I feel like the music was used a little too liberally during important exposition scenes.
Yes. Sounded like Batman or Interstellar during what could be/should be some quieter scenes.
Nolan must hate dead air.
Lots of flair. Well shot. I'm still processing it.
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:20 pm to RollTide1987
Just saw it. Great movie, and well-made as all Nolan movies are, but it was a bit too long. It could have cut 45 minutes and it would not have lost anything.
The communists were portrayed somewhat favorably, but I don't feel like Oppenheimer was inappropriately treated based on his association with them - especially seeing as how it was communists in one of the programs that gave our nuclear tech to the USSR, something the film omits. I was surprised the film did not omit that he was kind of a dirtbag who fricked other guy's wives.
I have to do more research on Strauss, but the film definitely wants me to think he's the worst guy in history.
Overall, it was a good film, but it tried to cram too much information into an already bloated run time. Maybe a miniseries would have been a better idea.
The communists were portrayed somewhat favorably, but I don't feel like Oppenheimer was inappropriately treated based on his association with them - especially seeing as how it was communists in one of the programs that gave our nuclear tech to the USSR, something the film omits. I was surprised the film did not omit that he was kind of a dirtbag who fricked other guy's wives.
I have to do more research on Strauss, but the film definitely wants me to think he's the worst guy in history.
Overall, it was a good film, but it tried to cram too much information into an already bloated run time. Maybe a miniseries would have been a better idea.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:52 pm to blueboy
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Just saw it. Great movie, and well-made as all Nolan movies are, but it was a bit too long. It could have cut 45 minutes and it would not have lost anything
Agree to disagree. I’m certainly no Nolan fanboy but I thought it was completely engrossing from beginning to end.
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especially seeing as how it was communists in one of the programs that gave our nuclear tech to the USSR, something the film omits.
They explicitly stated in the movie, more than once I believe, that Klaus Fuchs was the traitor from his program at Los Alamos.
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I was surprised the film did not omit that he was kind of a dirtbag who fricked other guy's wives.
It pulled no punches about stating Kitty was married when he began seeing her. Also made reference near the end of the affair he had with Dr Tolman’s wife. I thought the film solidly backed up the notion that he was a womanizer and didn’t care whose woman it was. Nolan did a great job a showing a lot of the good and bad of Oppenheimer as a brilliant and sympathetic but deeply flawed man.
Just saw this movie today and still unpacking it, but I’m saying 9/10 on first reaction. It’s that good.
ETA - was I the only one who didn’t recognize Gary Oldman as Harry Truman until after the movie?
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:55 pm to jdd48
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Now that spoilers are open... what I meant earlier was the silence during the gadget explosion. Everyone expected the gadget explosion sound to be over the top in imax, but the silence I thought actually added to the scene. Then the rush of sound during the blast wave.
The music throughout was amazing, but the silence was incredibly powerful. If I’m not mistaken, the music started from the first second of the film and continued all the way to the explosion. It was the first moment of silence until what, over two hours into the film? Although it felt a little long, it was probably my favorite movie experience in 15+ years.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:04 pm to Mister Completely
quote:But no mention of the Rosenbergs, Greenglass, Gold or Sobell etc., all of whom were communists connected to the communists depicted in the movie.
They explicitly stated in the movie, more than once I believe, that Klaus Fuchs was the traitor from Los Alamos.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:10 pm to blueboy
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But no mention of the Rosenbergs, Greenglass, Gold or Sobell etc., all of whom were communists connected to the communists depicted in the movie.
Right, they named Fuchs but also alluded to others that were in “those open discussions”. I didn’t feel like they omitted that at all. Maybe they didn’t chase down every name arrested for treason/espionage but they definitely mentioned it more than once, on top of all of his personal and professional acquaintances outside of Los Alamos that were known Communists.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:21 pm to RollTide1987
Great movie. Felt like the first 25 minutes or so were a bit confusing. Obviously Nolan likes to hop around in different timelines and I’m ok with that, but it took me a bit to get oriented.
Beautiful photography, stellar acting phenomenal score, great dialogue.
Despite being a biopic it has a good bit of tension especially during the countdown scene and the closing parts of the final act.
I saw it in large format but not imax or film. I personally do not feel like I missed out. This wasn’t a “spectacle” like some of Nolan’s work, so in the end I do t think the imax would have really made me gasp or enjoy any more than I did.
Excellent job making Truman look like a complete Douche as well.
Liked the JFK twist/Easter egg
Beautiful photography, stellar acting phenomenal score, great dialogue.
Despite being a biopic it has a good bit of tension especially during the countdown scene and the closing parts of the final act.
I saw it in large format but not imax or film. I personally do not feel like I missed out. This wasn’t a “spectacle” like some of Nolan’s work, so in the end I do t think the imax would have really made me gasp or enjoy any more than I did.
Excellent job making Truman look like a complete Douche as well.
Liked the JFK twist/Easter egg
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:25 pm to blueboy
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But no mention of the Rosenbergs, Greenglass, Gold or Sobell etc., all of whom were communists connected to the communists depicted in the movie.
You sure do know a lot about communists…. You got something to tell us, Comrade?
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:28 pm to The Eric
I feel like a large part of what made the story so impactful was how nuanced and complex most all the main characters were.
Each of them had major flaws to go along with their brilliance and success, some leaning more heavily on one side or the other. Oppenheimer, Kitty, Groves, Strauss, etc. It created a humanity for each of them which made the story all the more compelling.
Each of them had major flaws to go along with their brilliance and success, some leaning more heavily on one side or the other. Oppenheimer, Kitty, Groves, Strauss, etc. It created a humanity for each of them which made the story all the more compelling.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:53 pm to The Eric
Yeah, it's a lie told to the working class to get them to be foot soldiers fighting for the ascension of ghoulish despots. I was calling it out here when politards were still simping for George Bush.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:53 pm to RollTide1987
I give the movie a 7/10. The acting was great, especially Robert Downey Jr. I thought the movie was a confusing mess for anyone that went to watch it without knowing the story about Oppenheimer and Strauss.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 10:30 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
The scene where he addressed the cheering people in the gym had some crazy sound editing. From stomping feet to only hearing people rising out of their chairs to hearing people in bomb related agony.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 10:35 pm to RollTide1987
I just got out.
It is certainly a well acted, well shot, wonderful undertaking of a movie.
Alas, I have to be honest and say there is no need to see this in IMAX. The only scene it’s really useful for is the Trinity Test and that was…well…really not that awe-inspiring. It had tension, and was well done, but would be fine to watch on a 60inch TV.
As hyped as I was to see this movie, I left somewhat disappointed. I liked it. But I expected to love it.
It is certainly a well acted, well shot, wonderful undertaking of a movie.
Alas, I have to be honest and say there is no need to see this in IMAX. The only scene it’s really useful for is the Trinity Test and that was…well…really not that awe-inspiring. It had tension, and was well done, but would be fine to watch on a 60inch TV.
As hyped as I was to see this movie, I left somewhat disappointed. I liked it. But I expected to love it.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:30 pm to Salamander_Wilson
This movie is an acting and writing masterclass aside from the nude scene which feels out of place, but tits are cool.
Every. Single. Actor. Was fantastic in their role. And I’ll add to the notion that IMAX is not needed, but I went to the IMAX Dome at Shreveport Sci-Port and it really made the film larger than life. Loved every second and honestly didn’t feel too long to me. The story unraveled very well.
Every. Single. Actor. Was fantastic in their role. And I’ll add to the notion that IMAX is not needed, but I went to the IMAX Dome at Shreveport Sci-Port and it really made the film larger than life. Loved every second and honestly didn’t feel too long to me. The story unraveled very well.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:32 pm to Minden tiger
Just got an A CinemaScore. Legs will be strong
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:56 pm to Minden tiger
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This movie is an acting and writing masterclass aside from the nude scene which feels out of place, but tits are cool.
They put the nudity and sex in your face, just like it was in kitty’s face (and then they quite literally showed how in her face it was). Longer scene of them chatting while she’s topless helps reinforce how casual he was about it (and in turn other affairs, etc) Then despite all of that, kitty still fought for him when he wouldn’t. Not that any filmmaker needs justification for showing tits, but if they did I think he’s covered here.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:19 am to blueboy
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don't feel like Oppenheimer was inappropriately treated based on his association with them - especially seeing as how it was communists in one of the programs that gave our nuclear tech to the USSR
If you left the theater either thinking there was a sympathetic motive or you left sympathizing with Oppenheimer or any character, you really forced yourself to feel that way. The intent wasn’t to pick sides.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:21 am to RLDSC FAN
Rarely have I had such a visceral and emotional reaction to a film walking out of it. The last scene had me stunned. The tension that was built up released. In the car I felt so emotional, and my wife and I talked about the movie all the way home, something we very rarely do.
Just a remarkable film, the score, the editing, everything. It jumped through time and space so effortlessly, often several times within the same scene, without it even being remotely confusing.
Just. Wow.
I do feel 10-15 minutes could have been left on the floor, and I did miss some dialogue.
But I want to see it again. Tomorrow.
Just a remarkable film, the score, the editing, everything. It jumped through time and space so effortlessly, often several times within the same scene, without it even being remotely confusing.
Just. Wow.
I do feel 10-15 minutes could have been left on the floor, and I did miss some dialogue.
But I want to see it again. Tomorrow.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 1:41 am to RollTide1987
Thought it was good. I do think there was often times unclarity on the story it was trying to tell. And that may in part be intentional. But the focus wavers on indulgence and never quite goes the extra step to make us really appreciate what we’re seeing. But nevertheless thought it was great.
Nice to see Alden back in a good role. He was great. Also same with Hartnett. I thought he looked extremely familiar but I couldn’t place him till after the movie.
Nice to see Alden back in a good role. He was great. Also same with Hartnett. I thought he looked extremely familiar but I couldn’t place him till after the movie.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 1:42 am to lsu02150
The Harry Truman scene was atrocious. That shouldn’t have made it into the movie. It felt really really out of place
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