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Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:27 am to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:27 am to
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If you read my post you would have read that we had a bad storm that rolled through and a lot of people lost power at their house. So in words that might help you understand what I was saying.. there were a lot of people in the movie theater that were only there because they lost power at their house due to a bad storm. They (including me) were there to pass time at a movie instead of sitting at home in the dark.


Sounds legit

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I even broke it down in football terms and you were still too fricking dumb to understand my review about this movie.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:31 am to
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I just thought it was extremely slow. I went in not expecting an action packed movie but it was just boring as hell even knowing it was going to be like that.


Do you like Nolan movies? Here’s how I rank Nolan movies (that I have seen) on a simple scale from Retarded to GOAT.

Memento = GOAT
Insomnia = Good
Batman Begins = GOAT
Prestige = GOAT
The Dark Knight 2/3rds = GOAT, 1/3rd RETARDED
Inception = GOAT
The Dark Knight Rises = RETARDED
Interstellar = Good
Tenet = RETARDED

Where does Oppenheimer fit in relation to this ranking? Based on the GOAT movies, is this like those movies or a totally different type?



Posted by OakRidge2248109
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:33 am to
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Yeah it seemed like they made the bomb really fast. I kept waiting for that “breakthrough” moment where they have an epiphany and figure out how to make it work but it kinda went from the drawing board straight to “ok it’s ready to test”


Actually, they did depict the "breakthroughs". There's the scene where Alvarez runs to Oppenheimer to share the news that the Germans have split the Uranium atom (Oppenheimer is even depicted as having a "Eureka" moment in understanding that this can be used to create a bomb), and later, at Chicago, Fermi has created the first controlled nuclear reaction.

There was not one single "epiphany" that resulted in the atomic bomb. It was the result of almost 45 years of work dating back all the way to the Curies discovering radiation and Einstein's mass-energy equivalence.

The Manhattan Project was more of an engineering project than a physics project. By 1942, the theory of splitting the atom to produce energy was on solid foundation. The success of the MP was the engineering skills to a) refine and produce nuclear fuel, and b) the best/most efficient design for assembling a critical mass.

A) Is not depicted, because they never go to Tennessee. But B) is discussed in some detail in the movie. (I imagine they had to be very careful not to bore the audience with the technical details of why the gun-type and implosion-type assemblies worked.)

I don't think I'm spoiling anything with these details. Alvarez's meeting with Oppenheimer, Fermi's work, and the gun-type/implosion-type designs are standard things most people who are familiar with the MP would already know, and some of this is depicted in the trailers.

In fact, if there was one complaint, the movie's script does somewhat feel like a regurgitated Wikipedia entry.

Where the movie marvels is in the cinematography, sound design, and performances of Murphy, RDJ, and Damon.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by OldReaux
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:46 am to
I have Oppenheimer in my top 4 with The Dark Knight, Inception and The Prestige.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Where the movie marvels is in the cinematography, sound design, and performances of Murphy, RDJ, and Damon.

I’ll admit, I saw Damon in one of the trailers and I was almost embarrassed at how bad his delivery was. I was convinced he would suck, and I’m a Damon fan.

But he was awesome. The way the trailer was edited left him out to dry.
Posted by OakRidge2248109
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:11 pm to
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I’ll admit, I saw Damon in one of the trailers and I was almost embarrassed at how bad his delivery was. I was convinced he would suck, and I’m a Damon fan.

But he was awesome. The way the trailer was edited left him out to dry.


Yeah, Damon will be overshadowed by discussions of Murphy and RDJ's performances. (RDJ will probably jump to the head of line on Oscar odds for Best Supporting Actors, at least until more Oscar-bait movies come out in the fall.)

But Damon was pretty incredibly. His performance is the glue that holds the narrative together...which I won't say more about because it will definitely get into spoiler territory.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:16 pm to
Great movie. 3 hours of dialogue heavy drama and I was riveted the entire time. Also, big ole communist titties for about 5 minutes

Also, the Gary Oldman cameo was amazing
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Where does Oppenheimer fit in relation to this ranking? Based on the GOAT movies, is this like those movies or a totally different type?


We should rank you first. Where do you fit on your own scale? This particular post is … less than stellar.
Posted by lsu02150
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:23 pm to
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(I imagine they had to be very careful not to bore the audience with the technical details of why the gun-type and implosion-type assemblies worked.)


I think this is definitely part of it...but also, I think a lot of people are going into it expecting 'The Manhattan Project' despite the title being 'Oppenheimer'. If you can let yourself be open to watch a movie about the man, then I think everyone who wanted science will see that the filmmakers used just enough science to show the audience the impact it had on Oppenheimer and the world. I think any more science would have been unnecessary to tell the story they wanted to tell.
Posted by OakRidge2248109
Member since Jul 2023
18 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:32 pm to
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I think this is definitely part of it...but also, I think a lot of people are going into it expecting 'The Manhattan Project' despite the title being 'Oppenheimer'. If you can let yourself be open to watch a movie about the man, then I think everyone who wanted science will see that the filmmakers used just enough science to show the audience the impact it had on Oppenheimer and the world. I think any more science would have been unnecessary to tell the story they wanted to tell.


For what it's worth, I saw this in a particularly rural theater last night and the audience seemed riveted during the scenes depicting Oppenheimer's security clearance.

I feared that some people in the audience would find the narrative viewpoint that a Marxist fellow-traveler was hounded by the federal government a bit too much. ("I don't support no liberal, commie-worshipping movie." or whatnot.)

I think the theater had one person who left and never returned after those scenes, but everyone else seemed glued to their seats. It turned into a Alan Paukula-style 1970s political thriller, all of a sudden, and people were eating it up.
Posted by cfish140
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:41 pm to
I go to the movies alot and I always look at my phone to see how much time is left throughout the movie. I didn’t look once last night. Nolan had me on a string for 3 hours
Posted by lsu02150
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:43 pm to
Now that I've seen the whole movie, I think I will enjoy the first 1/3 more on the second watch. Second 1/3 was great, solid, captivating middle act. The last 1/3 could have been another 3 hours and had my full attention.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:44 pm to
8 hours until i'm in imax
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 1:04 pm to
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The last 1/3 could have been another 3 hours and had my full attention.
the last third felt like 15 minutes and it was easily an hour. It was fantastic
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:06 pm to
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I think the theater had one person who left and never returned after those scenes,


I hope it’s because he had to go the bathroom or something.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:07 pm to
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the last third felt like 15 minutes and it was easily an hour. It was fantastic


The last 1/3 AFTER the bomb test is one of the best hours I’ve ever seen in film. I was hanging on every word.
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:11 pm to
I will be doing another rewatch next week. My arse cant go to another late showing though
Posted by OakRidge2248109
Member since Jul 2023
18 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
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I hope it’s because he had to go the bathroom or something.


The movie had about a solid amount of time left and I didn’t notice the guy come back in at any point. It was after a particularly tense scene involving an exchange regarding some of the various characters’ communist sympathies and whether it made them loyal Americans or not, I figured, in this polarized time, the guy probably came for the ‘splosion and didn’t want to stick around for the Red Scare stuff.

He might have got caught up in the bathroom. But he missed out on some of the most intense parts of the movie, as various posters in this thread have attested to.

Old school 1970s psychological thriller stuff.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:20 pm to
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The only people that will hate this are those who expected a bunch of frickin bombs blowing up, but if you know anything about the Manhattan project, this just didnt happen


Right - it was much more a look at Robert Oppenheimer, his struggles, his inner conflict, and his ultimate railroading.

As far as the scenes with the gadget itself exploding (without giving too much away just yet), I really liked how they pulled that off.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:22 pm to
I don't think there is a better actor in the world to show his internal guilt than Cillian. In most scenes he didnt even have to speak. Just the look on his face was enough
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