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re: *OFFICIAL* Fringe M/TV Board rewatch thread (current episodes discussion p. 60)
Posted on 10/13/14 at 11:43 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 10/13/14 at 11:43 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Good thing or his machine change might cause him to murder Walter.
Seems like Peter is completely over Walter kidnapping him. He went from borderline hating Walter to now being 100% over it.
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How are they building the machine in our universe? I thought there were singular parts to the machine buried within each universe...but there are apparently duplicates now? Am I misremembering something?
I think both universes have all of the parts. Just a matter of finding them. Or they changed in mid-stream and decided that both universes had all parts.
Of course that doesn't jibe with Altuniverse coming over here to take certain parts.
quote:Barely. They ran the lie test first. They should have gone to full lockdown and surrounded the building with troops and done a finger prick test.
Myth, THEY ARE FINALLY TESTING BLOOD!!
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Myth, THEY ARE USING HAZMAT SUITS NOW!!!
quote:I agree, but at least they tossed out a line to give the all clear instead of just having people forget that 10 seconds ago the place would melt your bones.
At that barn, Walter said something about it being oxidized or some shite, but there is blue shite ALL OVER that place, and people are just waltzing around like it's no big deal? That shite literally makes your bones disintegrate. be a little more careful for frick's sake.
Definitely a dick move by the mind reader.
Perhaps he was thinking about making a move on Olive so he had to block Peter.
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:15 pm to TigerMyth36
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Dang meddling observers. I guess not just observing anymore.
Yeah, I think we may finally be starting to ramp up with Observer interference a little bit. We know how huge that is in S5, but maybe we're finally starting to get some regular inklings of that.
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I miss Red.
Well I miss that badass pic of Anna Torv that I requested you post in all of your reviews. Clearly we can't always get what we want.
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Why is Peter within 1000000 miles of the machine? This is almost Slasher Film level of incompetence.
Stuff like this keeps happening. I go on about it a little bit in my diatribe for this past week. Lots of incompetent shite going on these last few episodes.
Pretty cold blooded of Peter. I can't remember.
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Do we learn if something was affecting him or did he just become a cold blooded killer out of nowhere?
Well, that answer came quick. The machine changed him.
You sound a lot like me when I'm watching. I'll be like "WTF is that and why is that shite.....oh, they answered it. Nevermind." I usually delete my note about it. Hahaa. quote:
One thing, the code for each shifter there being Olivia's name is just garbage. I guess that could be a list of the shifter's working with her and there are many others out there, but I still found that more than a little silly.
I meant to bitch about that but forgot about it. Yeah, that was pretty stupid. First of all, if it was her shite, there wouldn't really be any reason to hide things. Secondly, even if she was gonna hide it, she would/could always know where shite was...no need to use a code like HER frickING NAME to hide shite. That whole thing was weird, and I love how Peter basically figured it out in less than a day.
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Why is everyone walking on eggshells around Dunham in relation to Peter and Fauxlivia? Nobody had any idea Olivia was even remotely interested in Peter or vice versa. They didn't find out until well into Fauxlivia's time in the Peterverse.
Hmm, good point. I didn't even think about that. I guess maybe since they knew that Peter and Fauxlivia were together, once the original Olivia came back they assumed it would be a little weird if she was reading all about Peter's peter in Fauxliv's diary and whatnot.
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Burn. We all knew that "easier smile" comment would burn him. And it did....again.
No doubt. Why he said that to being with boggles my mind. When she asks "what was different about her?" you don't lead off with something like that. Basically like "Well, she was a lot more fun than you are." Smooth like sandpaper; good job.
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Er.... hotshot Olivia is back.
Yeah, and the shot that she took on the dude's throat didn't even seem to make much sense the way they filmed it. It seemed like she was off to the side and behind him, yet the shot went straight through his throat severing his spinal cord. Yeah, okay. Not to mention that the bullet would've killed the dude standing in front of him as well. But whatever...hey, man, nice shot.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:23 pm to TigerMyth36
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I think both universes have all of the parts. Just a matter of finding them. Or they changed in mid-stream and decided that both universes had all parts.
Of course that doesn't jibe with Altuniverse coming over here to take certain parts.
Exactly. If parts were in both universes, she wouldn't have to be smuggling parts from here to over there. Maybe the corresponding parts over there are broken or fricked up..??
Also, the tech over there is VASTLY superior to ours, yet we're supposed to believe that in a matter of days/weeks they've built the machine in its entirety over here? I'd assume that most of the tech used to build it was completely unknown to the people working on it. Having blueprints to something is one thing, but when those blueprints contain shite that literally doesn't exist in this universe..that's something different.
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Barely. They ran the lie test first. They should have gone to full lockdown and surrounded the building with troops and done a finger prick test.
The blood test and lie test with the computer were being done at the same time. I'm almost positive of that.
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I agree, but at least they tossed out a line to give the all clear instead of just having people forget that 10 seconds ago the place would melt your bones.
I guess. I did notice that at least they used a throw away line to cover that.
It's funny that I'm sitting on my couch watching this shite and all of a sudden I'm like "Holy shite, Myth is gonna flip the frick out with this shite."
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Definitely a dick move by the mind reader.
Perhaps he was thinking about making a move on Olive so he had to block Peter.
He could've written anything down. Like Liv gets the paper and reads it and it says "He thinks about how ashamed he is of his tiny dick all the time" or "He has rape fantasies about you, Liv" or like "He can't get over the fact that he once smothered a baby seal to death on vacation in Canada."
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:26 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 10/13/14 at 4:37 pm to TigerMyth36
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They have fracking mercury for blood. How about a simple line up and finger prick, then a lie detector to test for human moles. Come on. Alien parasite invasion 101 guys.
mother fricking this.
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One thing, the code for each shifter there being Olivia's name is just garbage. I guess that could be a list of the shifter's working with her and there are many others out there, but I still found that more than a little silly.
her computer was already fairly securely encrypted so why does she need some stupid cipher that uses HER OWN frickING NAME??
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Burn. We all knew that "easier smile" comment would burn him. And it did....again.
peter was so fricking stupid by saying that. hey olivia, she was much happier and way more fun to be around than your stuck up arse. just dumb, peter. you could have said LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE AND YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER REACTION
oh and don't get me started on that mind reading hack. what a fricking dick move, bro. you don't go inside someone's mind then tell the chick what he's thinking. that's bush league and grounds for removal of your man card. all in favor say AYE
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:22 pm to TH03
I've gotten so far behind and this week is crazy well at-least up to tomorrow.
About to watch the first episode in this weeks wet, I hope by Thursday or Friday to be completely caught up. I literally had no time this past weekend, and also I'm getting hooked on criminal minds. (netflix has all the seasons, so the time I would watch fringe was spent watching criminal minds.)
I hope to comment tomorrow morning.
About to watch the first episode in this weeks wet, I hope by Thursday or Friday to be completely caught up. I literally had no time this past weekend, and also I'm getting hooked on criminal minds. (netflix has all the seasons, so the time I would watch fringe was spent watching criminal minds.)
I hope to comment tomorrow morning.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:25 am to CocomoLSU
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I remember the Christopher Lloyd episode.
one of my favorite ones.
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Seems like Peter is completely over Walter kidnapping him. He went from borderline hating Walter to now being 100% over it.
Not sure if he is 100% over it, but he found out his father was an a-hole. Walter actually cared for Peter wanted what was best for him, so it isn't so much of a stretch that peter would get over that, once things settled down. Maybe it was to quick, but I don't see it as a big deal.
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Peter with the save about the book ("I wanted YOU to read it to know more about me") was smooth. Nice work.
kinda like those snickers commercials I think it was, one clip of a horrible response, one clip of a smart response.
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Awesome how the Observer's story was connected to Lloyd's son with the accident and all of that. That's really cool. Very "butterfly effect" of the show, and I believe it gets even more like that as the show continues to progress with the Observers "course correcting" things.
the observers altering reality will soon become a huge part of this show.
More comments later, I loved this episode, so many great moments. They haven't happened to many times in this re-watch but I find the observer episodes are some of the better episodes on this show. Don't know what it is but this was a great episode. It is a big shift in plot after episode 9, excited to see how it unfolds I don't really remember.
remember I'm behind I still have yet to watch 11 and 12.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:37 am to TigerMyth36
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Why is Peter within 1000000 miles of the machine? This is almost Slasher Film level of incompetence.
It's one episode but I fear that this whole machine plot line which spans a season and a half, is a stupid plot line that will bore us and make us want to move on. I remember season 3 being the worst of the bunch, just didn't make sense, completely changed everything, and season 3 was caused by the machine.
I loved episode 10 there is something about the observers that makes the show more enjoyable.
episode 11 was stupid, testing peter, peter killing off shape shifters, machine changes how he acts. It seemed way to forced in many ways.
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They have fracking mercury for blood. How about a simple line up and finger prick, then a lie detector to test for human moles. Come on. Alien parasite invasion 101 guys.
I can't remember if shape shifters (at-least of this type) are involved after this. It just isn't convincing and it was only a big deal for the first couple shape shifter episodes.
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One thing, the code for each shifter there being Olivia's name is just garbage. I guess that could be a list of the shifter's working with her and there are many others out there, but I still found that more than a little silly.
yeah I found that silly, stupid and forced.
Pretty much the writers sat there. We have fauxlivia's CPU that we now have access, astro can't figure out anything out and olivia will come in and save the day because her and fauxlivia are so similar.
She did Olive so stupid and just didn't feel write.
A few other things about the episode.
Dr. Shapeshifter told Walter that his heart rate was elevated to 130 at rest pretty much. I get the nerves but he said that should slow down. than Dr. Shapeshifter told him oh it's nothing. Maybe it was because he was a shapeshifter was because he lied but it just wasn't convincing.
The whole thing of Peter and Walter keeping it a secret at the end just felt strange. First the scene looked forced, peter had no emotion, neither did walter. Walter who has been out of a mental for institution less than a year, just sniffed chimp DNA
and is well Walter, is able to keep his cool around peter with Olivia. It just felt strange, so this machine for one touch makes peter emotionless. I guess I see where they are going it just feels strange. Another thing why would they never consider peter? He would have access to the files, why would he be left off the hook. The guy had one of the most typical blood types in the world only one person out of 20+ people have it, but they say oh well that was a dead end I guess he had the wrong blood type. Just makes no sense.
I didn't like this episode, they went away from monster of the week, which I didn't mind most of the time it was fun to see how they solved the monster of the week and seeing how all of the other plots interweaved with the monster of the week.
one more thing, I think the fact that I remember Peter was the villain from the start kinda ruined the episode for me. The episode kinda centered around that and because I knew what happened it wasn't very interesting.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:44 am to CocomoLSU
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How are they building the machine in our universe? I thought there were singular parts to the machine buried within each universe...but there are apparently duplicates now? Am I misremembering something?
yes eventually they both have the machine. I remember how they fixed the destroying universe issue and thinking about it now seems kinda stupid, but maybe not. We shall see. As I said in my last post, all this machine stuff was stupid and made me hate season 3.
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So a shapeshifter dies and Broyles is straight up talking about it out in the open in front of other agents?
Just because this dude was on her hard drive doesn't mean that there is a mole. Why is Broyles freaking the frick out about that?
that is a good point, if fauxlivia knew who the shape shifters were there is a good chance some other high ranking shape shifter knew who they were. Plus don't all those shape shifters use that typewriter? I guess they forgot to check that out.
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I forgot all about the "weaponized Peter" thing, and how he turns sort of badass for a while.
I'm interested to see how that works itself out It felt very strange in episode 11 maybe it gets better. But I have this strange feeling that the show gets a lot worse after this point. I remember being season 3 being horrible, the fight between universes just doesn't feel the same now, and once they unite it just doesn't feel right.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:44 am to catholictigerfan
Man, you really didn't like the episode.
I don't remember how long the machine is in play, but doesn't it end with the end of S3? Isn't that when Peter disappears or whatever? Or does that come later? I don't remember exactly when that is. Also, I remember that both universes work together for a while, so I'm assuming that's S4..?
I don't remember how long the machine is in play, but doesn't it end with the end of S3? Isn't that when Peter disappears or whatever? Or does that come later? I don't remember exactly when that is. Also, I remember that both universes work together for a while, so I'm assuming that's S4..?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:47 am to CocomoLSU
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Man, you really didn't like the episode.
I don't remember how long the machine is in play, but doesn't it end with the end of S3? Isn't that when Peter disappears or whatever? Or does that come later? I don't remember exactly when that is. Also, I remember that both universes work together for a while, so I'm assuming that's S4..?
yeah it wasn't good
but that may have been influenced by the fact that from 2 seconds into the episode I remembered who was guilty so all the lie detector stuff was pointless.
But whenever Peter disappears the shows takes a turn for the worse, than once he comes back it get's better.
also I just mixed up the seasons we are 3 not 2. my bad
but season 4 is the bad one.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:19 am to catholictigerfan
I completely forgot it was Peter until a few seconds before he stepped out of the shadows.
I did't dislike any of the seasons on watch 1. I guess we will see if that changes. I definitely have a few more nitpicks this go around.
Glad to see I won't be the only one getting scolded by Yurintrbl when she joins the weekly conversation.
I did't dislike any of the seasons on watch 1. I guess we will see if that changes. I definitely have a few more nitpicks this go around.
Glad to see I won't be the only one getting scolded by Yurintrbl when she joins the weekly conversation.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:14 am to TigerMyth36
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I did't dislike any of the seasons on watch 1
I remember disliking season 4.
we will see how that plays out I'm going to be more like you in those episodes.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:14 am to TigerMyth36
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I completely forgot it was Peter until a few seconds before he stepped out of the shadows.
Same here.
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I did't dislike any of the seasons on watch 1. I guess we will see if that changes. I definitely have a few more nitpicks this go around.
This is the same for me. And I am not hating any of these episodes...I'm actually really enjoying the rewatch. And I don't look for the rest of S3 or S4 to suck at all. I remember enjoying Fringe all the way through the first time around...I just also know that I didn't pay much attention to it in terms of how involved some of the plots get, and thus I remember being confused by some things later in the show and asking lots of questions. So it's nice to be paying more attention this time around, and being able to discuss it with you two (mainly) each week. Plus, the fact that this thread is moving pretty slowly allows me to not get lost in the long threads back then, and I can just focus on the episodes at hand currently and follow along easier, if that makes sense.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:16 am to catholictigerfan
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I remember disliking season 4.
And apparently you hate season three as well. So you "dislike" like 40% of the show.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:18 am to CocomoLSU
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And apparently you hate season three as well. So you "dislike" like 40% of the show.
that was a typo, for some reason I thought we were on season 2.
I've had a bad week. I forgot about two meetings I had, I'm usually useless by 5pm, so I've had many brain farts in the past week.
Season 3 has been pretty good so far.
My ranks from my memory and what happened so far
5
3 (first half)
2
1
3 (second half) I think
4 (second half) I think
4 (before peter comes back)
It has been a long time since I've seen some of these episodes so we shall see if my opinion changes.
another note: I watch all of fringe after all the episodes aired so my perspective is different than those who watched it on it's first airing. I would sometimes watch 4 or 5 episodes in a day. So that changes my opinion of the show.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:21 am to catholictigerfan
And see, I remember liking the two universes working together on shite. I do agree that the show suffered a little when Peter was gone, but IIRC he wasn't gone for THAT long.
I'm interested to see where things go because I don't exactly remember what happens, or in what order, in the next season and a half or so.
I'm interested to see where things go because I don't exactly remember what happens, or in what order, in the next season and a half or so.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:23 am to CocomoLSU
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And see, I remember liking the two universes working together on shite. I do agree that the show suffered a little when Peter was gone, but IIRC he wasn't gone for THAT long.
I looked at the episodes this morning, I now kinda remember that once peter got back the show got much better.
Many episodes blend together especially when you watch it back to back, it is hard to remember exact feelings from every episode. I just remember part of season 4 I didn't like.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:46 pm to catholictigerfan
Bellivia is far worse than missing Peter.
I don't remember when they occur but those episodes were some of the only ones I really complained about with my first Marathon Watch.
For giggles, I would link my original watch thread but I don't want a retroactive ban for the Torv handbra in the thread. Didn't know they were illegal and nobody complained back then and the thread is locked so I can't delete it.
I don't remember when they occur but those episodes were some of the only ones I really complained about with my first Marathon Watch.
For giggles, I would link my original watch thread but I don't want a retroactive ban for the Torv handbra in the thread. Didn't know they were illegal and nobody complained back then and the thread is locked so I can't delete it.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:05 pm to TigerMyth36
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Bellivia is far worse than missing Peter.
Yeah that was prolly the worst thing in the series. And what kills it is that I remember thinking that she did a pretty good job with it (acting-wise), but it was just so stupid that it made me cringe.
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For giggles, I would link my original watch thread but I don't want a retroactive ban for the Torv handbra in the thread. Didn't know they were illegal and nobody complained back then and the thread is locked so I can't delete it.
Link that shite. I'll see about getting it edited.
Also, it's time for you to post AT in that red low-cut shirt again, brah.
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