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re: Justified: Season 6 Episode 13: The Promise ** Series Finale**
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:30 pm to Scoop
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:30 pm to Scoop
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Did Raylan really have a moment with Boyd at the end
They absolutely had a moment.
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Raylan isn't cool with not being with Winona.
He knows it's his fault they're not together.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:34 pm to Tino
A lot of shows I've watched over the years have tried to become something they were not after a few seasons. This show never swayed and stayed true to what it was. Great finale and the last scene was absolute gold. Raylan and Boyd are two of my favorite characters ever. I'm going to miss this gem a ton.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:28 pm to Dubosed
I just have to believe that a sequel show or a movie will come later. This show was just too good. Even if Raylon starts making big movies,there are enough other characters for another show.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:04 pm to DanglingFury
I really don't think it was as much as you said. Raylan genuinely hated Boyd and he went back to make sure he never went after Ava or ruined that kids life. Almost trying to kill off anything Boyd had to live for, and he wanted to be the one to do it
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:03 pm to Happygilmore
I don't know.
I think Boyd read Raylan there at the end as usual. I think he realized Raylan finally got some closure with Ava after a few years. I don't think he was buying what Raylan was saying.
Boyd knew Raylan probably better than anybody... and vice versa.
and Raylan going to visit Boyd wasn't about just trying to clear Ava. It was also Raylan getting closure with Boyd.
I think Boyd read Raylan there at the end as usual. I think he realized Raylan finally got some closure with Ava after a few years. I don't think he was buying what Raylan was saying.
Boyd knew Raylan probably better than anybody... and vice versa.
and Raylan going to visit Boyd wasn't about just trying to clear Ava. It was also Raylan getting closure with Boyd.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:20 pm to DivotBreath
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Winn Duffy was the person that helped her escape, that leaves me with a bigger issue since they never really established that Ava had a banter with Duffy that would make it reasonable that she would turn to him for an escape.
The bag of money is banter enough for Winn Duffy.
That said, how in the heck can the cops/marshalls/FBI at roadblocks not have been focused looking for Duffy as well. And when they see him in a dog groomers truck, they would have torn it apart.
I thought the final showdown with Boon was a little contrived.
They did a good job wrapping things up. The end results seem fair and plausible.
I guess I'm the only person on the planet who didn't like the ending to the Shield. "Sentencing" Vic to a do-nothing desk job was cute, but he deserved hard prison time.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:51 pm to Overbrook
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After all the hype, having Rayland and Boyd doing some shootout to kill one, the other or both would've just been cliche. This was more fitting and a better send off to two great characters that have a depth of relationship and history that would have been undermined with any other ending.
I agree with this completely and thought it was perfect.
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I put Justified in the same category as Breaking Bad
It is better than Breaking Bad.
I agree with Bamatab on Winona.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:55 pm to WITNESS23
Also found this very cool so I will share.
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LEONARD TRIBUTES YOU MAY HAVE MISSED:
* “Guess you think being a fellow lawman is going to draw you some water.” — The police officer who cuffs Raylan and drives him back to regional HQ is a Raylan replica, sans the sense of humor. He threatens to put Raylan in the trunk if he keeps talking, just the way the original Raylan did to prisoners in Leonard’s novels. Plus, “Lawman” was the original name for the series, before it was changed to “Justified.”
* “The Friends of Eddie Coyle.” Raylan pulls a worn paperback of this 1970 classic by George V. Higgins out of his office desk while cleaning it out. He tosses it to Tim. “If I said I read it 10 times, I’d be low,” he says. Leonard had been writing westerns, mostly, when he read this novel of gun-dealing low-lifes and the cops who chase them. It really is worth the read if you’re partial to “Justified,” because it’s one of the first things in American lit that looked and sounded like the show’s dialogue. Though Leonard went on to far surpass “Coyle,” he always paid tribute to it, even during acceptance speeches for big prizes late in life, saying that he “copied” the style until he learned to make it his own. How deep was his affection? He named a later character for one in the book — Jackie Brown — who was played by Pam Grier in one of the best adaptations of Leonard’s books.
* Raylan’s Miami colleague. The fellow marshal, who we first saw a couple seasons ago, is Gregg Sutter. That’s the real-life name of Leonard’s long-time researcher, who contributed to work on the series. Nice touch to give him a (well-deserved) nod.
* Ice cream. Leonard had Givens in several books, and, every time, the deputy had a soft spot for ice cream. In the final, we see Raylan sharing cones with his daughter. Again, lovely and understated.
* The (next to) last line. In “Fire in the Hole,” the Leonard short story about Ava, Boyd and Raylan, Raylan fatally shoots Boyd. He apologizes to the dying man, and Ava asks why. Leonard’s last lines: “I thought I told you,’ Raylan said in his quiet voice. “We dug coal together.” In the finale, Boyd asks Raylan why he came from Florida to Kentucky to tell him of Ava’s death. Boyd, figuring it out on his own: “We dug coal together.” Raylan: “That’s right.” It’s within two words of ending the series, verbatim, the way Leonard ended the original story.
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:57 am to WITNESS23
I'm still trying to figure out how they got a land line telephone up to that old dead guys cabin....
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:05 am to Charlie Arglist
Lol, that was the ONLY thing that made me think "WTF?"....I mean, judging by that guy's remains, it'd been awhile since he paid the phone bill
That aside, I loved the ending. Apart from Ava getting away (I knew she'd escape...hell, one of the S6 teaser trailers practically forecasted it), everything else came as a wonderful surprise to me. Less than two days later, I'm already missing it....
That aside, I loved the ending. Apart from Ava getting away (I knew she'd escape...hell, one of the S6 teaser trailers practically forecasted it), everything else came as a wonderful surprise to me. Less than two days later, I'm already missing it....
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:22 am to LooseCannon22282
Maybe if Raylan showed up a few weeks after boyd's imprisonment, that'd be one thing....but four years later, combined with the heartstring-pulling between the two of them (relatively speaking, heh), I think he accepted it. Whether he TRULY believed it, I don't know, but I got the impression that Boyd was finally willing to believe it, anyway....he probably wanted whatever peace of mind he could get at that point, and Raylan's story was plausible enough...
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:22 am to Overbrook
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I guess I'm the only person on the planet who didn't like the ending to the Shield. "Sentencing" Vic to a do-nothing desk job was cute, but he deserved hard prison time.
The ending was great. You are insane. The desk job was akin to a prison for him, considering the fact that his family wanted nothing to do with him, and the whole reason he turned dirty was for his family. He got addicted to the power eventually. In the end, he has a deskjob and no family. It's a prison of his own making.
FWIW, Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors. As much of a bad guy he was on the Shield and Justified, you still end up liking him.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:27 am to BugAC
Not to mention, vic's desk job in 'The Shield' finale was designed for him to fail at, which ultimately would've led to a worse fate...hell, by the time he was walking out of the building, you could argue that he'd already violated a couple of the terms of his ICE agreement....
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:34 am to LooseCannon22282
the finale scene was Raylan and Boyd looking into the mirror. That thin piece of glass was the only thing that separated them their whole life. Raylan choose the side of the law and Boyd choose the outlaw life. They always had a fondness and a sort friendship. Raylan is Boyd and Boyd is Raylan.
that scene was gold.
that scene was gold.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:46 am to Happygilmore
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I really don't think it was as much as you said. Raylan genuinely hated Boyd and he went back to make sure he never went after Ava or ruined that kids life. Almost trying to kill off anything Boyd had to live for, and he wanted to be the one to do it
i agree. but a major theme of the show was the ambiguity of admiration, friendship, hatred, and enmity.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:47 pm to Tino
Couple things:
-Y'all didn't like the character of Boon? I thought both character and the actor (Jonathan Tucker) were great, and should have been in more than 5 episodes.
-Is the actual county of Harlan, Kentucky as tough and disfunctional as in the show? I looked at some stuff on Wiki, and the county people are definitely on the poor side. Plus there is a 1976 documentary that I want to watch about the coal industry up there.
-Y'all didn't like the character of Boon? I thought both character and the actor (Jonathan Tucker) were great, and should have been in more than 5 episodes.
-Is the actual county of Harlan, Kentucky as tough and disfunctional as in the show? I looked at some stuff on Wiki, and the county people are definitely on the poor side. Plus there is a 1976 documentary that I want to watch about the coal industry up there.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:09 pm to Cole Beer
That last scene was perfect. Boyd and Raylan chose different lives but walked the line together. The most underrated show in this golden age of television.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:11 pm to BugAC
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The ending was great. You are insane. The desk job was akin to a prison for him, considering the fact that his family wanted nothing to do with him, and the whole reason he turned dirty was for his family. He got addicted to the power eventually. In the end, he has a deskjob and no family. It's a prison of his own making.
Yea, I get all that. Everything fits together nice and neat.
But he deserved hard prison time.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:04 pm to Overbrook
I just watched the finale for the first time. I had it recorded and I actually delayed watching it a couple days because I was not ready for it to be truly over.
I have been hooked on this show since the first episode and the characters of Boyd and Raylan are two of the best in the history of television. I am really going to miss this show. I feel like I have an empty hole inside of me now. Lol
The finale was great. Not quite to the level I expected, but it did the show justice. I was a little ticked about the whole Winona thing, mainly because the whole season was about him finishing his business in Harlan so he could go be with his family in Florida. But I get why they don't end up together.
I am really going to miss this show. Between this, Friday night lights, and Jericho, I have lots of feels.
I have been hooked on this show since the first episode and the characters of Boyd and Raylan are two of the best in the history of television. I am really going to miss this show. I feel like I have an empty hole inside of me now. Lol
The finale was great. Not quite to the level I expected, but it did the show justice. I was a little ticked about the whole Winona thing, mainly because the whole season was about him finishing his business in Harlan so he could go be with his family in Florida. But I get why they don't end up together.
I am really going to miss this show. Between this, Friday night lights, and Jericho, I have lots of feels.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:09 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
Im just pissed Winona ended up with a douchey looking Affliction type. Grinds my gears.
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