just saw hateful eight- spoilers

I really liked it. Glad Walton Goggins got the spotlight he deserves.

Russell did great.

Samuel L. was well...Samuel L.

Jennifer Jason Leigh was fantastic.

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Waltz good as always

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Waltz was not in the movie.

That role had Waltz written all over it though. I assume that was what they had in mine for Waltz the first go around before everything changed.

JJL and Goggins I could see getting nominated.

Oh, I agree. But she did get one hell of an arse whoopin'. Her rant at the end was pretty great though.

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i just dont see why at the end when people start killing each other he has to take it to another level with the blood and effects, etc.

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This is why I hate Tarantino and will never watch another movie of his. That dude is a sociopath and would be a serial killer if not for the movies to serve as an outlet for his bloodlust.

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i LOVED this movie for the first 2 hours. i thought it could be top 3 for me, however i thought the final 45 minutes lacked punch and honestly was just reservoir dogs set in the old west.

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So it was like Django

I absolutely loved it. It was a throwback to Reservoir Dogs, but I think a director returning to his more simple and familiar structures after the ambition of his recent projects (which didn't land 100%) can be a good plan. This is a man who has survived the movement in film he spawned, and is now derided in snobbier circles as a throwback to a less enlightened era. So, what is his response? To double the frick down on the violence and discomforting language.

This is a movie by a man who knows he is untouchable. Or, more accurately, he knows he is disdained by this ultra sensitive era of critics, constantly clutching at their pearls while they overpraise films stacked with artifice or are so personal they never stretch beyond navel gazing. Tarantino welcomes their disdain. He courts it. And he can wind them up for the simple reason that he makes really good movie that you can't just dismiss out of hand despite their violent and ugly cores.

This is an extremely political film,and while he is saying a lot about racism, the sins of our fathers, and slavery as the nation's Original Sin... he's also saved some bile for the PC Left. Ugly topics require confrontation, not retreat. His characters don't hide behind niceties, they may be false (and there are many falsities in the movie), but they don't hide their fractures. The room has to be divided between North and South at one point, and is only brought together as truths get exposed. Dressing up a lie is a cowardly act, pretending its beautiful is immoral. There's a certain honesty to the hate, which doesn't get exposed in regards to other matters.

Yes, the final hour is over the top. But that's when the veneer crashes down. Death is ugly and brutal, and in the end, there is no justice, just frontier justice which, as the hangman tells us in one of his more honest moments, is always in danger of not being justice at all. The ending is vital to the film, because it endorses a tremendously bleak worldview: there is no justice and the only thing that can overcome racism is a mutual hatred of women. Damn, that's dark.

And you could write a thesis on the Lincoln Letter. I do like that in the end, stripped of everything else, Mannix stops to admire the art to lie. Mary Todd... that's a nice touch.

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if you shoot a guy, he drops dead, i dont need to see blood all over everything and there head explode. 

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You don't realize how powerful that gun was

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The whole movie felt slightly off. Tarantino was off his game this time around. It was way too long and sort of tedious

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Exactly how I felt. IB is probably my all-time favorite movie and I absolutely love Django (both movies get better every time I watch), but this one left me disappointed. Didn't care for most of the acting performances. Roth seemed like he was acting like Waltz acting like the character. Didn't care for Goggins' delivery. Russell was too much over-the-top "gruff" as opposed to really developing a character. Liked Jackson, but the whole BJ story felt too forced. Tatum was good. JJL was good. Overall it just felt too long and boring. I don't mind long movies and don't mind a slow build, but the first hour and a half of dialogue just wasn't that compelling to me. Granted, I didn't like IB and Django nearly as much in the theater as I did on subsequent viewings. But I wouldn't be that motivated to sit through this one again.

You guys must not like stage plays.