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re: Chernobyl starting tomorrow on HBO

Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:20 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:20 am to
Excellent first episode. I’m hooked.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:20 am to
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It was. Notice how they had a soldier on him immediately and he was escorted. Not so subtle.


Yep, oh the joys of authoritarianism....

Do what the State says or they will have a soldier kill you.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:25 am to
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Do what the State says or they will have a soldier kill you.



Yep. And the dude knew he was dead either way. Either the soldier would shoot him or the radiation would kill him. Personally, I would have preferred the bullet. Severe radiation poisoning is said to be the absolute worst way to go. I suppose he might have believed there was a small chance the reactor was still there. But as soon as he looked over the edge he knew his life was over. Sad.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:29 am to
This show has me enthralled with radiation now.

The fireman touching the graphite and becoming sick immediately is scary.

I don’t really understand how it all works but man is it fricking scary.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29427 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:49 am to
brethers, that was an excellent pilot. been looking forward to this one for awhile.
Posted by TigerEyes1970
Member since Dec 2013
913 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:04 am to
That was an outstanding episode, I would have binge watched the whole season, if I had discovered it after all the episodes had aired.
Good TV is hard to find sometimes, I'm talking to you, GOT season 8.

Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3477 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:24 am to
Chernobyl,

If done right should be about the heroes, the firefighters, the tunnel diggers, the soldiers, the helicopter pilots, the men who stayed though the months of trying to entomb the reactor.

All the firefighters that night dead within weeks, the unseen enemy is the worse to fight.

I have many books on the event, including the best book on the subject in Russian in is like a tomb of the event, with the list of dead running down the side of the pages of the event.
Posted by arklatiger
Virginia Beach
Member since Oct 2005
940 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:57 am to
The tunnel excavators saved Europe. Had the core reached the water aquifer, Europe would have lost an unimaginable amount of lives and be left a wasteland. This disaster was more about what they saved than anything else. Only the Cuban missile crises compares in shear scope of annihilation.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8628 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:02 am to
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False. I think only a dozen people died in the first few days

Delayed deaths including people who died from radiation induced cancer only like 30

The worst nuclear disaster in history with a horrible disaster response and less than 50 deaths.



I did not realize this. I thought the radiation instantly killed and then lead to cancer deaths of hundreds of thousands in the following years. Interesting.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15554 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:17 am to
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The worst nuclear disaster in history with a horrible disaster response and less than 50 deaths.

This country should be 90% nuclear.


It’s going to be in the 1000s with the latency period for cancers kicked in. Teens and kids got hit hard early with thyroid issues and got a good bunch of them. Watch the long way round episode where Charlie and Ewan visited the shelter for UNICEF for the kids in the area.

90% nuke is a stupid strategy and no energy company is going to do it.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19246 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:21 am to
There still was a massive medical impact. There are thousands of birth defects attributed to this.


I liked the pan out scene showing the dead trees in the forest.

I remember this happening when I was in high school. My commie hating self was not too concerned with the loss of life or what was really going on. Now that I'm older and possibly wiser that is freaking terrifying.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14654 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:54 am to
I'm just waiting on His Dark Materials.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29459 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:53 am to
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don’t really understand how it all works but man is it fricking scary.

It’s like electricity or anything else. It has rules that must be followed. Dose is relatively predictable in most situations. (The subject of this series however is NOT one )

One thing people always misunderstand. The suits you see them wearing protect against contamination not radiation. You’re getting the Gamma and Beta either way.

Think of a fire. The heat is radiation. The soot is contamination.

If I’m remembering correctly at the point where the guy goes to the roof you’re staring at an exposed core, they couldn’t tell if the reaction had stopped at that point. But you had high rates of gamma and neutron radiation pouring out. That’s the bad stuff.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123813 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:01 am to
That episode was amazing. This shite scares me more than any horror movie. Really wish I could binge watch every episode.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6132 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:07 am to
Will probably watch it but the from what the trailer shows, looks like nothing I havent heard or seen before about Chernobyl. Russians never had a problem killing their own. But the series does look good.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 11:09 am
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14819 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:47 am to
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Communism sucks, that's my takeaway from the first episode.


While the accident may not have happened in western democracy, the only reason the clean up got done and fires put out was communism. Not many systems would have knowingly sent 100's to certain death without telling them other than communist.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19475 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Russians never had a problem killing their own


I would use the word sacrifice. That does a better job explaining their thinking.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85396 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Evacuation began long before the accident was publicly acknowledged by the Soviet Union. In the morning of 28 April, radiation levels set off alarms at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant in Sweden,[82][83] over 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) from the Chernobyl Plant. Workers at Forsmark reported the case to the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority, which determined that the radiation had originated elsewhere.[83] That day, the Swedish government contacted the Soviet government to inquire about whether there had been a nuclear accident in the Soviet Union.[83] The Soviet government initially denied it, and it was only after the Swedish government suggested they were about to file an official alert with the IAEA, that the Soviet government admitted an accident took place at Chernobyl.[83] At first, the Soviets only conceded that a minor accident had occurred, but once they began evacuating over 100,000 people, the full-scale of the situation was realized by the global community


That's incredible.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15554 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:09 pm to
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While the accident may not have happened in western democracy, the only reason the clean up got done and fires put out was communism. Not many systems would have knowingly sent 100's to certain death without telling them other than communist.


Never doubt our own arrogance. Three mile gets toss around a lot for potential, but has anyone read about Davis-Besse. Had that engineer not got caught lying about the damage to the vessel, no telling what might have happened there.

The industry is littered with OE, just got to hope people do their jobs. It’s a tough industry and one I don’t ever want to work in again.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:27 pm to
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