re: BvS: Dawn of Justice (Spoilers Possible)

I don't know what to tell you. It wasn't the forced darkness I had a problem with. I just hated MoS because I found it boring. Once again, I don't like Superman. He's boring to me. That has a lot to do with why I hated it.

But he didn't bother me as much here. Mainly because it felt like a Batman movie featuring Superman.

That's promising. I really wanted to like this movie so I'll probably give it another shot.

But Lex framing superman for the Capitol Building and then never bringing it up again was fricking stupid.

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i'm sure there is some porn version of WW you can find to suit your needs

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Oh there is. Also Supergirl and both Wonder Twins depending on what kind of mood you're in.

off topic but amazon just gave me 19.99 in promo credit to purchase the digital copy when i complained i couldn't purchase it with my rewards points

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Once again, I don't like Superman. He's boring to me. That has a lot to do with why I hated it.

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Yeah maybe, he only had what, 17 lines in BvS, maybe a few more in the extended cut?

Pretty sure there's a WW porn with Tori Black out there somewhere.

Mmmmhmmmm

So who has seen both? I saw the theatrical version and liked it ok; but then I could understand the criticisms too, I just didn't hold a superhero popcorn movie to the high standards some others did, I guess.

My personal opinions re the original cut:
1) Affleck was a great choice as Wayne/Batman
2) Gadot does just fine as Wonder Woman, and I have no problem or reservations in her upcoming solo movie
3) Cavill LOOKS like Superman, and I like the Lois and Clark relationship
4) This ISN'T the Lex I would prefer, but he's very easy to underestimate, which he takes full advantage of
5) blowing up the Capitol was pretty easy to figure out without an extended cut; it was character assassination + removing Sen Finch.

6) "Martha"... it wouldn't have been my choice. Just came across as a bit clunky.
But it was pretty damn clear that Batman became what he did because of his parents' death, and they made a point of having him continue to have dreams about his parents. Martha was his dead mother... and now Martha is someone else's mother, someone that person was trying to save.

I'll give the writers credit for deciding that might be the only way to crack the Bat, it just didn't work smoothly on film.

It didn't ruin the movie for me, and I've seen plenty of other films that include some exposition or a sudden bit of info that completely changes the arc of a film. This wasn't the worst, wasn't the best.

Everything else actually was pretty good, and I look forward to the next DC movie.

I suspect that if you WANT to hate it, nothing can change your mind. But if you go in open-minded, there's plenty to like.

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Yes Breesus,. Lex still sucks

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Well that leaves me with nothing to discuss in this thread

The extended version was immensely better. There were still some things missing, IMO. A lot of the same problems were still present for me. I've gone into great detail voicing those things, so I won't do it here.

But, at least now the movie makes sense in the first half. It didn't feel choppy like before. Things were much better explained. Like why people were where they were. Whoever the a-hole was who decided to cut this movie needs to be led out of the building. It was just asinine some of the scenes that were deleted.

At first, I gave this movie a 3/10 out of anger. Since then I changed my score on the theatrical cut to 4/10, which is just below average for me. The Ultimate Cut is easily a 6/10. I'm still angry about handling of Superman. That anger really made me want to give this movie a 5/10, which is average. But I can't deny there are some really amazing action sequences and now that the movie actually makes sense for the most part, it's easily an above average movie. 6/10 is very fair.