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Brad Pitt at the end of Seven: good or bad acting?

Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by deuce
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:26 pm
Spoilers, obviously.

The Box scene

Would you qualify Pitt's overall acting performance/delivery in this scene as good or bad (if you had to pick one)?

My personal take is that while there are some strong moments in the scene for him, when he gets to the "oh goddd" the delivery seems so odd and out of place (perhaps this was his goal) that I'd have to go with bad acting (since any bad acting in an individual scene outweighs the good).

Now to be fair, perhaps I shouldn't judge: I have yet to stand next to someone in real life and observe his natural reaction as he finds out his pregnant wife's severed head is sitting in a box in front of him.

Regardless, I'm interested to hear what others think about his performance here.

Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:32 pm to
I thought it was overwrought and contrived, but I am at odds with most on this board in that I think he is a terrible actor.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:32 pm to
WHATS IN THE SPOILER? WHATS IN THE SPOILER????
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:33 pm to
Tough to know the natural reaction to such an event.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Tough to know the natural reaction to such an event.


Yea. This happened to me once, the acting was terrible.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:34 pm to
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I think he is a terrible actor.


in leading roles, generally.

He can shine when he doesn't have to carry the movie - True Romance, Burn After Reading being 2 excellent examples.

I thought he was alright in Se7en but, might have gone over the top at the ending. However, the role kind of called for it - the movie has more than a hint of the surreal - kind of like Dark City - both surreal and neo-noir.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

My personal take is that while there are some strong moments in the scene for him, when he gets to the "oh goddd" the delivery seems so odd and out of place (perhaps this was his goal) that I'd have to go with bad acting (since any bad acting in an individual scene outweighs the good).


I think it went along with his propensity towards reacting angrily and violently throughout the entire movie.

I mean shite, just look at his reaction about 10 seconds after opening Dante's Inferno.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:36 pm to
His actions are awkward to watch.

I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to go almost emotionless with shock/curiosity instead.

I would have like to see him play it cool, less screams/crys. More controlled questions. He could show his torment through facial expressions well enough. The internal struggle, and then the shock would send him into an almost zen state.

And then bam, he shoots Spacey's fricking head off.


It would have been a nice addition to his character, who is clearly in the struggle for the sin of wrath, to completely change his personality the in the instant when he fails/succeeds with his struggle.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:40 pm to
I'm a fan of Brad Pitt's work and think he is a great supporting actor cursed with leading man good looks (he'd enjoy a better reputation as an actor if he looked like Steve Buscemi).

That said, the what's in the box scene is not one of his high points. It's pretty bad.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I think it went along with his propensity towards reacting angrily and violently throughout the entire movie.

I mean shite, just look at his reaction about 10 seconds after opening Dante's Inferno.


His aggression throughout the movie comes from his internal struggle with wrath.

Once he accepts his fate, whether he considers it successful or failure on his part, his personality should change. He should be calm and calculating in that moment.

ETA:
I should be a director
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Once he accepts his fate, whether he considers it successful or failure on his part, his personality should change. He should be calm and calculating in that moment.



I don't think so. Somerset even comments earlier in the movie "It's impressive to see a man feeding off his emotions". It was expected for Mills to react poorly to seeing his wife's head in a box. I'm surprised he didn't shoot himself too.
Posted by wilfont
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:48 pm to
I don't know if the delivery was intentional or not but it was not great acting IMHO.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:54 pm to
Exactly. He has been feeding off his emotions because of the existence of his struggle.

Once the stuggle is over, the feeding off his emotions is over.

He is no longer fighing the wrath. He has accepted it, which should allow for clarity in his decision making, calmness in his demeanor, and calculation in his reaction.

He should have taken on a personality like Spacey's character in that scene. It would have warped the minds of Sommersett and Spacey. Their reactions to his this change would have been epic. Everything would have culminated over the entire course of 5 minutes or so instead of the last 2 seconds when he finally squeezes the trigger.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:10 pm to
I think the emotions were appropriate, just poor execution. So bad acting.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:22 pm to
It was pretty bad
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:34 pm to
It was bad

Brad Pitt needs to be eating something in order for him to deliver a believable performance

He is at his best when he is delivering lines while eating food
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:44 pm to
I may be in the minority, but I thought it was good acting. I couldn't tell you how one is supposed to act after finding out their wife's head is in a box and that she was pregnant.
Posted by Mad_Mardigan
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:49 pm to
He wasn't struggling the entire movie with wrath. It was in the instance that he saw his wife's head in a box and shot John Doe when he committed the sin of Wrath. Mills "becomes" wrath at the end as John Doe explains.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 2:20 pm to
I thought he was fine at the end of Seven. It is just that Spacey and Freeman were so much better.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

eating


I was starting to think it was in his contract, and it's probably why he was so natural in Moneyball.. Half that movie he was either dipping, drinking coffee or mowing through a powebar.

..and thought his delivery was odd for the scene in question, but sort of accepted it for the sake of him facing the unfaceuptoable. I honestly have more trouble being scared by Spacey in his intimidating roles.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 2:26 pm
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