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re: Avengers 2 Story Line theories *spoilers*
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:29 am to TheDarkestNight
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:29 am to TheDarkestNight
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So you think that the US government during the biggest war in our nation's history would make public the records of a super soldier project just because you think they are honest open folks
I know that military records are public knowledge. I know he is depicted as a national hero. I know he is presumed dead.It takes one reporter to pull public records to write an obit. It's not a great leap.
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you are naive as all hell.
you are misusing the word naive, but you believe otherwise.
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What's worse troll is you are trying to change around the plots and events of a movie to fit your stupid ideas and beliefs.
Beliefs, what beliefs do I have? Google public military records.
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Some personal information from U.S. Military records is available to the public, without authorization from the veteran. This includes name, rank, service number, dates of service and medals awarded. If the service person is dead, the place of birth, place of death and location of burial may also be available
With that it's easy to track Steve Rogers as Captain America. He'd have an MOS as a performer, correlating with dates and places the Captain America show stopped. Being one of five maybe males in the cast and the only cast member to move into battle,as well as being promoted into an officer it's simple process of elimination (I linked the term,alter,so you might understand what that is).
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BTW, no one cares about Anchorman anymore.
except for Anchorman 2, alter.
I thought you read multiple film websites,alter?
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 12:32 am
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:36 am to RonBurgundy
I want to throw in my two cents on the Wolverine/Cyclops bit a few pages back. I've always considered those two just like the Ninja Turtles. Wolverine is like Raphael in the sense that he is the best fighter but he could never lead. Cyclops is like Leo in that he is the obvious leader and a great fighter, but not the best. I think a one round fight between the two would be a good match up as long as Cyclops kept Wolverine away. If they had a huge grudge and kept fighting till one would die Wolverine would win that. He'd eventually get Cyclops.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:38 am to jmarto1
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kept fighting till one would die Wolverine would win that. He'd eventually get Cyclops.
Well Wolverine can't really die, so yeah. I do like the analogy though. Cyclops is a lot darker than Leo though. Hell, he leans more towards the "Magneto" way than Xavier ever did. Cyclops beams are pretty fricking powerful,too.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:42 am to RonBurgundy
I haven't read comics for quiet a few years so I don't really know the direction they have taken with him. Damn right those beams are powerful but if Wolverine has one cell he can regenerate. I did wonder if maybe they had fought when wolverine had his adamantium ripped out by Magneto what could happen. If you didn't vaporize everything he'd still come back. Also, when his claws would break they would grow back stronger. How much breaking would it take to make his claws as strong as adamantium? Total nerd question there.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:52 am to TheDarkestNight
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THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT NOR ACCESS TO THE RECORDS, troll.
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His name was not public record you idiot. Why can't you understand this simple logic?
That's not logic, that's assumption.
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He was a part of secret military project.
He was part of the military. He was approved by the doctor, but he filled out the same paperwork as everyone else, which means he got paid by the Army, which had him listed as a E-1 initially then a jump to an O-3. He had a bank account where he was getting paid. This isn't hard,alter.
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You are being highyl ignorant troll and need to stop trolling this thread with your ignorance troll
Redundant sentence is redundant.
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I know this may be hard for you understand troll, but our government, especially the military, has had dozens if not hundreds of secret projects over the years that take decades to get out and some never reach the light of day at all.
Sounds like you don't grasp the concept of numbers. A kid signs up, A kid gets paid.
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Go watch your shitty 8 year old comedies and leave the MCU movies to people with an IQ over 75, troll.
For a guy who hasn't read comics since the 90s you are quite possessive of the MCU. Especially with a DC handle,alter. DC stands for Detective Comics, BTW, where Batman hangs out.
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Now troll, stop trolling this thread with your ignorance and leave this discussion to the idiots.
Okay so that would just leave you,alter?
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 12:53 am
Posted on 5/10/12 at 1:04 am to jmarto1
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I haven't read comics for quiet a few years so I don't really know the direction they have taken with him. Damn right those beams are powerful but if Wolverine has one cell he can regenerate. I did wonder if maybe they had fought when wolverine had his adamantium ripped out by Magneto what could happen. If you didn't vaporize everything he'd still come back. Also, when his claws would break they would grow back stronger. How much breaking would it take to make his claws as strong as adamantium? Total nerd question there.
Well, depending on writing course, Wolverine can have his head cut off and eventually his body would find it. He's had his adamantium ripped out, but only to have put back in, later. That's why Hulk vs Wolvie is close to the creme de la creme in a no holds bar in the MU.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 1:23 am to RonBurgundy
Wolverine and Hulk would more than likely have to be taken out like Doomsday in DC. Nothing can survive the end of time...or a really creative write I guess.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:47 am to TheDarkestNight
Getting out of hand.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:16 am to Freauxzen
This thread is wy off track.
The avengers will not pull in wolverine or the x-men for that matter. Because then the avengers movie line would be acknowledging the existence of all mutants, and that opens a very large can of obnoxiousness.
The avengers will not pull in wolverine or the x-men for that matter. Because then the avengers movie line would be acknowledging the existence of all mutants, and that opens a very large can of obnoxiousness.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:21 am to donRANDOMnumbers
They aren't doing civil war this argument is pointless.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:46 am to RonBurgundy
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That's why Hulk vs Wolvie is close to the creme de la creme in a no holds bar in the MU.
I hate Cyclops
Just throwing that out there for the previous discussion. I have read a good bit of the current comics also. Anyway, Wolverine is one of my favorite, but I think Hulk would take him out. In that case I just think Hulk is too much to handle. I think The Thing would be a better fight for Hulk.
Also, speaking of Avengers, I wouldn't mind adding Black Panther or Moon Knight. Black Panther is almost Marvel's Batman while Moon Knight would be entertaining cause he's crazy as shite.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:58 am to jacks40
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They aren't doing civil war this argument is pointless.
I agree. There's no way this story happens.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:09 am to F machine
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I think The Thing would be a better fight for Hulk.
hulk would destroy Thing
Thing has super strength but its nowhere near Hulks
Below are the official Marvel bios for The Thing and The Hulk
The Thing
The Hulk
The Thing is Strong but he cant get stronger.
Hulk gets stronger the more mad he gets, which means he potentially has no limit to his strength
Hulk is also much faster
the only way the Thing even stays in the fight for a little while is because he retains his human intelligence
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:14 am to Murray
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I agree. There's no way this story happens.
Eh, it would be a good place to take it. Not THE story but some, more condensed version of it.
The only problem is is quite a dark story. I don't think RDJ's Tony can go that far yet.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:54 am to Ash Williams
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hulk would destroy Thing
I never said Thing would win. I just said I think he'd be a better fight than Wolverine.
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the only way the Thing even stays in the fight for a little while is because he retains his human intelligence
Hulk can too, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:57 am to F machine
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I never said Thing would win. I just said I think he'd be a better fight than Wolverine.
it would be a better pound for pound bout
the only thing is that a fight between the hulk and wolverine could potentially last until the end of time
not saying it would be entertaining to watch tho... it would make for a long arse movie
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:59 am to Freauxzen
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The only problem is is quite a dark story.
This is why I don't think it will happen. Marvel's all aboard the more classic comic approach of good guy smashes bad guy. Then you throw in the Thanos cameo which signifies more cosmic adversaries and that's a pretty far reach to thinking they will do any kind of hero civil war.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:59 am to Ash Williams
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it would be a better pound for pound bout
the only thing is that a fight between the hulk and wolverine could potentially last until the end of time
not saying it would be entertaining to watch tho... it would make for a long arse movie
I think Hulk and Wolverine would be more entertaining also. I just think Hulk could break Wolverine into a million little pieces and at that point it wouldn't really matter. Sure he has a healing ability, but how long would that take to heal? Months? Years?
Thing can at least be a little closer in the strength department. And damn you for showing me that marvel site. Now I'm gonna be on there all day
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:03 am to Murray
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Marvel's all aboard the more classic comic approach of good guy smashes bad guy
I agree with this to a certain extent. Wolverine is a fan favorite, but I'm not sure if I'd call him a good guy considering the stuff he does or has done. They even made Magneto look good for an entire movie, so I wouldn't be surprised if at one point they tried Civil War. 10 years ago I never thought there would be an Avengers movie or a Batman movie worth a shite, but here we are.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:05 am to F machine
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Hulk can too, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
i guess this is depending on who the writer is for the comic
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