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re: Avengers 2 Story Line theories *spoilers*

Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by TheDarkestNight
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:57 pm to
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"Captain America 2" is scheduled for April 4, 2014.


This just seems like an odd date for that movie to drop. I'm sure they'll move it back to May. They have a movie schedule for either June or July of that year as well, but haven't revealed which one yet. If I had to guess it's either a Hulk or Ant-Man movie.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 1:00 pm to
Been trying to come up with a lineup for the Masters of Evil (I guess they would change the name a little for a movie because very few people call themselves evil). Trying to come up with a mix that wouldn't necessarily all be retreads from one of the previous (or future solo) movies but that wouldn't take a ton of screen time to flesh out origins for. Here's a few:

Zemo (or maybe Red Skull)
Enchantress (but not Executioner - he's kind of blah for me)
Absorbing Man
Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo
Moonstone
Whirlwind or some similar fast moving, preferably flying type
Some muscle - maybe Abomination or someone not from the previous movies (Mr. Hyde, Titania, Wonder Man?)

Also, if the are going to go into Thanos to any extent in the movie, maybe they can throw in Moon Dragon. Would provide eye candy and her personality/crazy factor might be a good source of conflict either for this movie or for a future one).



Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:09 pm to
Are they really doing an Ant Man movie?
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:14 pm to
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Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo



I keep seeing this but I doubt it happens. Mickey Rourke's character is Iron Man 2 was a combo of those villains and he (probably) dies at the end.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:30 pm to
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Are they really doing an Ant Man movie?


Yeah Edgar Wright is on it.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:36 pm to
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This just seems like an odd date for that movie to drop. I'm sure they'll move it back to May


Well alter, you are one who reads multiple films websites, what do they tell you?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:38 pm to
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Well alter, you are one who reads multiple films websites, what do they tell you?


He'll call Nolan up and let us know the inside scoop?
Posted by jacks40
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:39 pm to
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The director has said that he plans on making the film smaller in scope than the original and focus more on developing the characters.



In Joss Whedon speak that means he is going to kill of someone the audience loves.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:40 pm to
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Freauxzen



Didn't he say at one point that Hathaway was playing only Selina Kyle and not Catwoman? I seem to remember a conversation he said in his previous form.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:41 pm to
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In Joss Whedon speak that means he is going to kill of someone the audience loves.


Pepper Potts or Black Widow are the favorites if that's the case.
Posted by TheDarkestNight
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:37 pm to
You do realize that by calling me an alter constantly, makes you, by definition, a troll right?

Anyways, Marvel is going to release a short (< 30 minute) film that is suppose to feature some of the behind the scenes stuff with S.H.I.E.L.D. Will be interesting to see when and where they release it, because Coulson is apparently a part of it.

A website last night was speculating that since Clark Gregg is still under contract for more movies they may use his voice and his likeness as a basis for The Vision.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:24 pm to
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A website last night was speculating that since Clark Gregg is still under contract for more movies they may use his voice and his likeness as a basis for The Vision.


Thanks alter!

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You do realize that by calling me an alter constantly, makes you, by definition, a troll right?

IDGAF.
I am just reporting news, so readers don't get you confused for some new poster to this website who will be approaching 1000 posts in his first month, with his first post was this fricking long:
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I'm all for a Justice League movie, but I believe they should keep it to 5 of the main characters (Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Wonder Woman) and give them each a movie to re-establish their character in one huge cinematic universe that connects them all. Well I want them to let the Man of Steel trilogy play out first. Put some distance between that Superman, this Batman trilogy and last year's Green Lantern. I want these movies, but I want them done right and not thrown together. Even though Marvel/Disney didn't plan initially for The Avengers but rather added the seeds to the end of the Iron Man production, they've done exceptionally well with tying everything together properly. What I would so is start out with a Superman movie to establish a movie universe for all of these characters to take place in. Mention Gotham, mention whatever city Green Lantern is in. You know, drop subtle hints of their universe. Do like The Avengers and have one or two characters that tie them altogether, but with a twist. Make it a villain - Lex Luthor. Luthor has no powers, but he is a genius, cunning businessman with a lot of wealth and the desire for power. Have him start out in a supporting role in a Superman movie. Like he is the hot shot in Metropolis before Superman makes his big arrival. He realizes that he is no longer Metropolis's favored son anymore, so he goes about assembling a crew, a team, a legion, that will help him bring the ultimate doom to Superman and any golden boy (or girl) who wants to stand in his way. Because you see, while he is by far the most wealthy man on the face of the planet and has his hand in literally every industry possible, He really doesn't have as much respect or as much power as he believes he should. Every man and every woman, once they taste any power or any money, they naturally want more. Luthor would be no different. I believe that they should do a first May, first July, December, second May, second July, and third July movie outline, so I'll just fill in the blanks: Superman gets the first May, Flash the first July, Wonder Woman gets Winter, Green Lantern gets the second May, and you introduce your new Batman as more of a detective/investigator, but still arse kicker and general do-gooder to be the de facto leader in the second July movie and the last before the JLA assembles. For the first JLA movie, have them fight some of the smaller, more earth-based villains to get the story going and have Luthor in his head role as villain. Once Luthor realizes that he can't win with Earth-based villains, he searches the cosmos for those sympathetic to his cause - remember this guy has untold wealth and with how rapidly space travel is developing and new technology to communicate with those who may be out there, this would be no problem to portray. For the sequel, bring in the more cosmic, more challenging villains like Brainiac and Sinisetro. You know, the badasses who can present a challenge. After their defeat, Luthor becomes desperate, and in his desperation, he pulls a Mafia in The Dark Knight and turns to a weapon like The Joker that he doesn't fully understand: That's right, DOOMSDAY! In the finale, you bring out the big guns. No you bring out the biggest gun. Not only that, you let him do damage. No not just ransack a city damage, I'm talking what no superhero movie has done at this point. You kill Superman. That's right, you take the Jim Brown/Wilt Chamberlain/Babe Ruth out of the JLA. You stack the deck. You put them at a real disadvantage, not just a perceived one. You change the game. By the end of the first act of a 2 hour and 30 minute movie, you have completely thrown the script, the usual, the standard, the audience's expectations to the curb. They are gone. Trashed. A hero - the truest superhero of all - is dead. The golden boy of the known universe is done. Now, you have your game-changer and now you have the liberty to do as you want. What do our heroes do? Do they surrender and hope for a faint chance of a slip-up by our new overlord? Do they turn to the man who unleashed the literal Doomsday upon humanity? Does he care? Is he happy? Do they all agree to fight to the death? Do some quit but some fight? Do they leave in search of aid? Does this story not have a happy ending? Does it really break that mold of the good guys win? You've given yourself a Pandora's Box with very little chance of screwing it up and any writer worth a damn and with the self-awareness to further their career would be chomping at the bits to tackle that situation. It would completely change the status of not only superhero movies, but the action/adventure genre, and help society question whether it's good or not for the perceived good guy to always win. It also helps us examine what humanity would do if a real totalitarian ruler emerged and we had no way of fighting back. But hey that's just my thoughts on the subject.



So yeah, you are an alter, if you don't like me calling you that, give up this handle or tell me you original handle and I'll call you that, but I won't call you something else,alter.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:49 pm to
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A website last night was speculating that since Clark Gregg is still under contract for more movies they may use his voice and his likeness as a basis for The Vision.

Now there's a thought. In the comics the Vision was created by Ultron, based on Simon Williams'(Wonder Man) brain patterns and the original android Human Torch's body.

With a little tweaking, they could make it Colson's brain patterns. I've also heard it said that there was a mention of the original Human Torch in the Captain America movie (although I think I missed it when watching the movie).

So, volia, all we need for the Vision now is Ultrom or another creator. (though I'd hate to see them stray too far from the source materials and make it someone other than Ultron).
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:54 pm to
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I was also wondering if they would bring in the X-Men but I feel like the x-men franchise and the avenger franchises are two separate camps.


I wish so bad they would reboot this franchise, but with the original class (Scott, Warren, Hank, Bobby, and Jean).
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:06 pm to
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I wish so bad they would reboot this franchise, but with the original class


There has yet to be a film that writes Scott well. He's not just in the X-Men, he is the X-Man. By far the most important mutant. But Fox thinks Magneto, Xavier and Wolvie are the only ones that matter.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14420 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:33 pm to
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There has yet to be a film that writes Scott well. He's not just in the X-Men, he is the X-Man. By far the most important mutant


This gif has never been more needed on this board.

Posted by TheDarkestNight
Member since May 2012
419 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:59 pm to
Because Wolverine, Magneto, and Xavier are far more popular and entertaining characters. No one gives a damn about Cyclops and his laser eyes.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35772 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:08 pm to
I grew up watching X Men on Fox and Cyclops was my fàvorite. He was a sarcastic a-hole who didn't bow down to Wolverine like his pussy alter in the movies. Bring that Cyclops back.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14420 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:09 pm to
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No one gives a damn about Cyclops and his laser eyes.


HEY! Don't bring Cyclops into you and Burgundy's little e-fight.

You ever heard of General Patton? Well in the Marvel Universe that's who Cyclops is. Total badass

Posted by TheDarkestNight
Member since May 2012
419 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:12 pm to
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HEY! Don't bring Cyclops into you and Burgundy's little e-fight.

You ever heard of General Patton? Well in the Marvel Universe that's who Cyclops is. Total badass


General Patton is one of greatest men in US history. Cyclops isn't even in the top 3-4 of greatest X-Men (Give me Wolverine, Xavier, Colossus, and Jean Grey over Mr. Red Eyes).
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