re: Avengers 2 Story Line theories *spoilers*

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Correct.

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good, bc since i typed my original segue idea, marvel has contacted me about co-writing

who wants to see black widow boobs?

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what i would like to see is the group get back together to fight another supervillain who pops up without initially revealing where he came from or his motive

they struggle to, but end up defeating this supervillian and in the process learn his only motive was to attempt to defeat or at the very least weaken and distract the avengers.

the avengers walk away from this information baffled as to why someone would just be there to weaken/distract them. and distract them from what?

then in the last moments of the movie Thanos appears and quickly beats the everliving shite out of the avengers . As the Avengers are bloody on the ground, Thanos reveals that why the avengers (including Thor) were dealing with the villain on Earth he was able to sneak into Odin's vault and retrieve the Infinity Gauntlet (cut to scenes of him doing this and crippling Asgard in the process).

As he nears the end of his revelation, one of the avengers grabs one of the futuristic shield weapons and attacks Thanos from behind. In the process the attacking Avenger is killed (i think it would have to be Nick Fury/black widow/hawkeye so that you dont lose any of the MAJOR characters).

After this, the Avengers get up and consider another attack, but Thor grabs Cap America and tells him they have to retreat and regroup bc of the power of the infinity gauntlet (which only Thor would know about).

The Avengers escape the area as Thanos gloats over the dead avenger. and is then seen tearing the area to shite.

We then see the Avengers regrouped in a secret facility trying to piece together what just happened.

Thor gives them a history of the infinity gauntlet and Thanos. Then Stark or Captain America gives a dramatic line and credits roll.

Leaving us begging for the third and final Avengers where they must face off with Thanos.

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Not a bad plot. As long as it's not Hawkeye that gets it. He's always been one of my favorites (and I think he may have even been voted like favorite avenger ever by the fans some time back). Oh and if Black Widow bites it they have to bring in a super heroine played by an even hotter actress.

The trick of course would be picking the right villian or group of villians for the initial fight(s).

Rogers name is not known publicly in the MCU. Hell only a few people in the military knew his true identity and all but Fury are dead. Besides it's not like the government is going to go around advertising that they have a super solider formula. In the MCU, the public only knows him as Captain America. Same with Bruce Banner. Sure some people know his name, but the general public doesn't. Tony Stark made himself known and he'd obviously be on the pro-Registration side. Rogers would be on the anti-side. Thor would be on the IDGAF side. They can surely introduce more Marvel characters between now and then, but they have their 4 principals and two lesser known characters. Black Panther could easily be brought into the fold and if they bring in Ant-Man, that's an 8th known superhuman. Not ever character they bring in needs to be featured at a high level in their own movie or someone else's movie either. Luke Cage could be brought in without a big fuss and so could some lesser characters.

It can be done if they want to and Whedon has already said he's interested in that story.

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70 years of him being dead, plus military record and along with witnesses, alter. Not exactly a large leap here. If he is a historical legendary man, like he is portrayed in the MCU, his identity is known.

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Him being dead only adds onto my point, troll. Your not helping my point there. Most of the people who saw him 70 years ago probably thought he was just an actor anyways because all he was doing was those traveling war bond sales shows anyways. Most of those people are dead. It's not like the missions he ran in Europe were directly against the German army or were approved or acknowledged by the military at large. He attacked only HYRDA bases. Like I said, he was only known as Captain America to the general public in today's world in the MCU.

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Since you haven't read comics since the mid-90s you don't need to explain Civil War to anyone. Just because you read multiple film websites and Wikipedia, you are clearly less familiar with the source material.

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And you seem to think that the comics have any bearing on what goes on in the MCU troll. I don't exactly see you dropping high knowledge of the Marvel comic continuum either there sport.

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Of course he is, it's a major storyline in Marvel's history, but other ones fit better than Civil War. If the MCU had more of their IPs in house, then it could work, but not with that small of a number. A "war" needs more than 8 people. That's just a fight

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And they could add more in. They added Hawkeye and Black Widow in in other people's movies with no problem. Black Panther, Luke Cage, Ant Man, Moon Knight, Namor, The Wasp, Quicksilver, etc. They have dozens of characters they can pick from to bring introduce either in the individual movie or just bring them along in The Avengers. Hell they could just release little 15 minutes films on their website with quick summaries of their characters to give moviegoers a quick backstory into the new characters. Pixar has been doing this with each of their new releases and it's been pretty popular granted they don't use short films to do it, but it's a possibility.

Think outside the box troll and you may come across a good idea.

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And they could add more in. They added Hawkeye and Black Widow in in other people's movies with no problem. Black Panther, Luke Cage, Ant Man, Moon Knight, Namor, The Wasp, Quicksilver, etc.

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You should work in Hollywood with that thinking.

"hey the public loved a movie about 6 superheroes you know what they will love twice as much? A move about 12 superheroes!!"

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Your not helping my point there.

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Of course not, alter, you don't have a point. Being a historical figure doesn't add to your point. It makes more likely to be an icon and learned about in school, like the aforementioned Patton or Neil Armstrong. He is the apex of US technology in WW2.

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Most of the people who saw him 70 years ago probably thought he was just an actor anyways because all he was doing was those traveling war bond sales shows anyways.

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So we are unaware of actors name's now in the 1940s? Alter, you are showing your colors again.

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Most of those people are dead.

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Like the old man in Germany? Regardless of him, People do write history books, newspapers about famous people in the 1940s right? National icons like Ted Williams or a famous solider whom trading cards and comics were made of, whom kids idolozied. You think when his plane crashed people forgot about him and there wasn't an obituarty say in the New York Times? Do you think the army had military records or the Howling Commandos wouldn't give interviews about him?

Alter, at this point, you know your case is flatlining, but it's your MO.

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Like I said, he was only known as Captain America to the general public in today's world in the MCU.

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Nope. With only verbal knowledge that he will show, Banner recognizes Rogers immediately.

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And you seem to think that the comics have any bearing on what goes on in the MCU troll

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Of course they do. This story borrows from both regular continuity and The Ultimates.

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sport.

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Getting under your kin, alter.

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They have dozens of characters they can pick from to bring introduce either in the individual movie or just bring them along in The Avengers. Hell they could just release little 15 minutes films on their website with quick summaries of their characters to give moviegoers a quick backstory into the new characters.

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I am glad you've read online previous ideas to expand the MCU, but at this point the 15 min shorts are outdated data. You forgot Iron Fist when cycling through those old articles, alter.

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Think outside the box troll and you may come across a good idea.

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Regurgitating ideas you read online is not the same as thinking outside the box.

Furthermore, since you claim to be "new", alter, your response pattern is not of a newbie poster here. If you really felt you were being trolled by myself, SFP in the earlier thread, the GCA accusations, you'd more than likely leave or lurk until the coast was clear. You, however or not doing either, therefore giving more evidence that you are not who you are pretending to be. Where is this "coworker" of yours that you were speaking to about all of your "ideas",alter? What is his handle? Why is he not in these threads discussing them with you,alter? I'm patient. Send him my way. Have an admin confirm you are not an alter.I don't mind being wrong.If an admin comes on, I'll eat crow on your identity, but that won't validate any of your points.

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Nope. With only verbal knowledge that he will show, Banner recognizes Rogers immediately.

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to be fair Banner was trying to recreate the formula that turned Rogers into Captain America. He'd be a lot more familiar with who he is than the general public.

That said the Captain America movie ended with him surrounded by a military squad of commando's in New York's Time Square. I think some of that encounter ends up on Fox News and CNN, coupled with the reappearance of Captain America in costume, except for the last half of the battle when he lost his mask, in battle with an alien invasion the secret would be out

Captain America was the one who was famous, not Rogers.

When he did the war bond shows, he was only known as Captain America. They never referred to him as Steve Rogers.

Even with the events of Time Square, they grabbed them and left. Half the people in Time Square in the movie weren't even paying attention. Besides they probably concocted some bs story about a mental patient or something.

Fact is, his real name is only known by a select few in the MCU. It doesn't matter how many people in the military may have known him 70 years ago, it's not 70 years ago and I doubt those guys were going around telling everyone his real name either. Besides, the waitress calls him just by Captain America. If she knew his name like you claim everyone does, then she would have called him Steve Rogers. Clearly only a privileged few know his real name, his real identity in this MCU and all of those people are either in the military/government or are a part of S.H.I.E.L.D.

So you think that the US government during the biggest war in our nation's history would make public the records of a super soldier project just because you think they are honest open folks?





Troll you are naive as all hell. His name isn't know in the MCU, none of your speculative trolling is going to change that fact. What's worse troll is you are trying to change around the plots and events of a movie to fit your stupid ideas and beliefs. Troll, you need to go elsewhere.

BTW, no one cares about Anchorman anymore.