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re: Avenger: AoU Reviews (**MAJOR SPOILERS**)

Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:44 am to
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:44 am to
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I thought the sequence where he's transporting that thing in the truck was completely unnecessary and just an opportunity to throw in more action.
I couldn't stop thinking of how much it reminded me of this scene:







This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 8:55 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:45 am to
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Tony Stark was basically a bad guy,


He's a reckless good guy who was under the influence of something.

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they have the avengers fight each other throughout the movie because hey, this movie needs more action.


There was tension, but isn't there always tension? Last time it was Fury hiding things form everyone, this time it was Stark assuring himself that he could make decisions alone.

And wouldn't most have a problem if the team was a well oiled machine that hums along without anyone ever getting made at anyone else? 0 internal tension?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:47 am to
Yes, you can process everything, but it's exhausting. Are you really going to tell me the frame wasn't cluttered with shite for 1/2 of the movie?


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criticism about superheroes



It was a joke. The picture had so much going on, and even if it didn't, I don't want to read subtitles.

The movie was fun, but very much like a transformers movie. If you replace robots with superheroes, it's the same thing really.


Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:48 am to
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I don't want to get into a dissection of THIS movie, but he was a bad guy, and then he tried to do the same shite twice. Not the real issue, but like last time he doesn't consult anyone, ask anyone. He just does the same stupid shite twice



Stark is an inventor, failing is part of the process.You keep trying...

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The inclusion of the twins basically reinforces what a bad guy he is. First his weapons murder their family, then Olsen twin knows what he'll do with the new ultron body because she assumes he's a bad guy


But she doesn't mean that he's a bad guy, she specifically says, "He'll do ANYTHING to win" the fight against the bad guys. They make this point multiple times.

Now whether or not you think that makes him a "bad guy," is a debate. But he isn't just a bad guy.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:48 am to
I really liked the motorcycle stuff. The rear screen was looking fake on a few shots, but that was kind of awesome

The action with captain America was also pretty cool
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:49 am to
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then Olsen twin
I really liked her character, but I do have a question. What was her intention when she fricked with the Hulk's mind? Did she want to kill Tony Stark? Did she want to kill The Avengers? Did she want to destroy the city? She had to know that Hulk would frick shite up pretty bad. I mean, how many people died from that fight in the city? I found it funny that The Avengers just said "Oh well. Want to become an Avenger?".
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:51 am to
Um, yes that make him a very bad guy

Do ANYTHING to win

Posted by RedPants
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:59 am to
I really liked AoU, but the "invention" of Ultron was so rushed that I still have no idea how he was actually created. The scepter was some kind of advanced tech instead of Asgardian type magic?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:05 am to
I was just shocked that an olsen twin had meat on her arms and an actual set of tits. she still had that weird alien face that comes from not eating enough quesaritos at Taco Bell
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:08 am to
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shocked that an olsen twin had meat on her arms and an actual set of tits.  she still had that weird alien face that comes from not eating enough quesaritos at Taco Bell



You know she's not an Olsen twin right?

And your criticisms of this movie so far are stupid.

A super hero Avengers movie and you're criticisms are too many characters, too much on screen, and a city gets destroyed? Dumbass.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:09 am to
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failing is part of the process.You keep trying
it's not so much that he tried to do it again, but moreso that once again, it's in secret without asking anyone.

he is the secondary antagonist of this movie whether you like it or not.

They make note that he keeps company with nefarious people (andy serkis)

does wild and dangerous things to satisfy his ego

the billions that are funding the avengers are made from weapons that murdered the olsen twins parents and countless others.

I could go on all day...iron man was a bad guy in this movie.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:10 am to
I know that, I just call her that...the fat olsen twin
Posted by RedPants
GA
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:10 am to
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he is the secondary antagonist of this movie whether you like it or not.


Bingo, hence...........Captain America: Civil War.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:11 am to
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's in secret without asking anyone. 



Him and Banner had talked ad nauseum off screen about it and worked the entire project together.

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he is the secondary antagonist of this movie whether you like it or not. 


Well yeah. It's setting up civil war.

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does wild and dangerous things to satisfy his ego 



Well. He is Tony Stark....
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:12 am to
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you're


a

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Dumbass




I think it is a fun experience, but I have 2 big criticisms

1. too much, too fast

2. iron man is an a-hole



Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:18 am to
Liz Olsen is the younger sister of the Olsen twins, and a far better actress.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:20 am to
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2 big criticisms 

1. too much, too fast 

2. iron man is an a-hole 


Thats why your an dumbass.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:24 am to
yeah she is, and a lot better to look at. I also liked kick arse as quicksilver.



Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:25 am to


Posted by Javzz
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:56 am to
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A super hero Avengers movie and you're criticisms are too many characters, too much on screen, and a city gets destroyed? Dumbass.


Too much undeveloped action going on screen makes one a dumbass? This isn't the first superhero movie. They've evolved enough to the point where we can expect villains to be developed and entire plots to not be rushed/copied from the original.

Just because it's an ambitious project doesn't mean it avoids criticism.

And I don't think it's the fact that a city gets destroyed. It's that a city gets destroyed by Jobber army with entirety of Avengers fighting while villain is only meaningful opponent. Also Iron Man is depended upon to find small flaw in villains plan and save the day. And Hulk is used in first half of movie climax by bad guy to cause havoc with Avengers. Like I've mentioned earlier in this thread, Ultron's personality wasn't all too different from Loki's either.

We understand that they didn't want to use some of the ideas that they have planned for the next movie. But they copied way too much from the original movie. The majority of this movie was just lazy. It doesn't help that the last two marvel movies that came out prior to this one were home runs.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 9:58 am
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