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re: Article: What If The New Star Wars Sucks, Too?

Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:54 pm to
Those of you who enjoyed the third movie, was this scene your favorite:

Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:01 pm to
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Those of you who enjoyed the third movie, was this scene your favorite:

Actually, it was Obi Wan saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes," when he, in fact, just dealt in absolute.


Like I said, it could have ended better, but I don't think it was that bad.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:08 pm to
I'm convinced Lucas read the screenplays of New Hope and Empire by a fellow screenwriter and had him killed and looted them for himself. He felt it needed to be a trilogy and wrote Jedi himself. It would explain much.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:10 pm to
That scene goes into my stated category of

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fully recognizing that there are some painfully bad scenes/writing in it.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:10 pm to
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Sure, Episodes I and II were not good, but I don't think Episode III deserves the over-the-top hate that you see on here. Could it have ended better? Yes, but the story and final fights were not terrible.


I've always thought that if Revenge of the Sith had actually been Episode I, with II and III showing Darth Vader wrecking stuff across the galaxy and the birth of the rebellion (as is the case in the Star Wars: Rebels series), then I think the prequels would be thought of much more highly.

It reminds me of that Patton Oswalt comedy bit he does about the prequels and a fake conversation with George Lucas about them before they came out.

Lucas - "You like Darth Vader? He's in these prequels."
Patton - "Oh yeah, freaking love me some Darth Vader! That helmet and cape, is he in the first movie?!"
Lucas - "Yeah, you get to see him as a little kid."
Patton - "Uhhh, is he like a Damien Omen kid?"
Lucas - "No, he's just a kid and he gets taken away from his mom and he's sad."
Patton - "Ahh, um, I don't really care abou-"
Lucas - "Well don't worry, because guess who shows up in the second movie -- Boba Fett!"
Patton - "Boba Fett, YES! Freaking love me some Boba Fett with that helmet and bounty hunting! That is awesome!"
Lucas - "Well in the second move you get to see him as a little kid."
Patton - "Again, I don't, ah, um...?"
Lucas - "Don't worry, because you know what shows up on the third movie? The Death Star."
Patton - "Sweet! Wait, what is it doing?"
Lucas - "Well you just see it at the end of the movie, it's being built and Darth Vader's sorta looking at it."
Patton - "Ahh, um, yeah I don't care about how they built it or how they put in the toilets or any of that."


Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:12 pm to
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I've always thought that if Revenge of the Sith had actually been Episode I, with II and III showing Darth Vader wrecking stuff across the galaxy and the birth of the rebellion (as is the case in the Star Wars: Rebels series), then I think the prequels would be thought of much more highly.


I'd probably just make II the first and go from there. Obviously, you'd have to make II a lot better, but it would be a fine starting point. Then the third movie in the trilogy be Vader and Sidious just being badasses
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:17 pm to
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plaid out




However, I agree with what you said and gave you an upvote, sir.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:20 pm to
Well, it certainly hasn't payed off. ;)
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115802 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:24 pm to
People WANT to like Episode 3 because it finally has what they were waiting to see for their whole lives: Kenobi v Skywalker.

But its bad. Real bad. It IS better than the first two shite sandwiches.

"Ani you're breaking my heart!"

I'm not going to the dark side. Oh hey guy I barely know, I can save my wife from dying? From my perspective now the Jedi are evil. I'll go slaughter a bunch of kids.

You were my brother and I loved you! Except I treated you like shite, didn't really want to train you, sort of tolerated your existance, and we really weren't friends at all. We also never had a real discussion about light v. dark as I say we did in the Original Trilogy.

There ARE parts that work better than I and II, but its still bad.

Just watch Plinkett.

As for ROTJ, I love it. Always will. There are parts of it that are just amazing. Is it as good as Empire and New Hope? No. Its a bit more uneven. But it has scenes that are better than most scenes in either of those movies.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Oh hey guy I barely know


You do realize that those two have been real close for years right?

Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:36 pm to
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Betting on this one to be good—to be the best movie of all time—is betting against the trend.


Not a single person on Earth believes this will be the best movie of all time. It will most likely smash the all time box office record but $$$ does not equal quality.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:39 pm to
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You do realize that those two have been real close for years right?


Not established in the films. They see each other on occasion.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:43 pm to
It will be great as long as the movie doesn't go back to being the Star Wars version of C-SPAN.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115802 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:46 pm to
TRADE NEGOTIATIONS MOTHERfrickER

But seriously, I'm rewatching the Plinkett review of Sith. rekt.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:56 pm to
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TRADE NEGOTIATIONS


Posted by Indigold
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1702 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:07 pm to
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This is not how movies should be made.

Just because you can reduce everything to a formula after the fact does not mean you can take a formula and make something worth a shite. Some people just don't get that.


Why not? When something is bad enough, you can look at it and say "this is why this is bad, let's not do that again." Yeah, of course there should be more to the story and movie-making besides that, I didn't say that's all you had to do...
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Not established in the films. They see each other on occasion.


Well, besides the entire dialogue about the Council wanting to use the extremely close relationship that the two of them had built in order to gain insight into what he was doing, and other dialogues about them being friends. Besides that, yes, they barely new each other.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4134 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Well, besides the entire dialogue about the Council wanting to use the extremely close relationship that the two of them had built in order to gain insight into what he was doing, and other dialogues about them being friends. Besides that, yes, they barely new each other.


Just another example of the prequels telling and not showing.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81627 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:19 pm to
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. I am very sorry to say that Return of the Jedi is butt.

Sure, it contains around an hour or so of terrific, visually spectacular space-fantasy adventure. Unfortunately, this space-fantasy adventure shares its running time with nearly 80 minutes of embarrassing bullshite. Here I am referring to: the too-long-by-half Jabba the Hutt sequence at the beginning, which tries and fails to recapture the sleazy fun of Mos Eisley; the excruciating scene in which a visibly embarrassed Alec Guinness delivers a block of exposition revealing Obi-Wan Kenobi to be the most hapless doofus who ever lived; what only feels like a month of intolerable Ewok nonsense; and more.
This is bullshite.
Posted by Indigold
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1702 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:21 pm to
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It will most likely smash the all time box office record but $$$ does not equal quality.



Don't say that to the guy from the Cars thread
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