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re: Why isn't TM7era the Honey Badger considered GOAT CFB player?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:36 am to RedHawk
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:36 am to RedHawk
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Also, every time Bama needed a first down, they went to the guy he was guarding
So they weren't trying to score touchdowns?
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He was the weak point in the defense that night.
Defense was great
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:37 am to partywiththelombardi
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I wouldn't waste anytime calling out the defense for that game...
I kind of agree, but the only chance LSU had of winning that game was for another 9-6 type score and their defense couldn't hold them to 9 again. It isn't like LSU did much on Offense the first time they played. The D knew they were going to have to play perfect to win, and they didn't. Bama did.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:38 am to Vanilla Ice
How has this gone 3 pages?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:40 am to TigerBait1127
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It is extremely absurd
It really isn't. Unless you have a very simple mind and just look at stats and big plays. There are other aspects that mean more to winning a football game. Like shutting down the running game such as Brockers did. Eliminating one side of the field for QB's like Mo did. They didn't put up astounding stats or do anything flashy, but just did their jobs exceptionally well. Those things have to happen first, before TM7 can make his impact causing turnovers and making big plays. If we're being gashed up the middle or picked apart by a QB, doesn't matter as much if TM7 strips a ball once a game, gets a sack or 2, etc.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:41 am to RedHawk
Bama called a better game.
They opened up their attack and aired it out. On first down they would throw the ball and they remained balanced.
LSU just ran into the defense and threw screen passes for 3 QTRs watching the game get out of hand.
The first game was a pound the rock fest. Saban adjusted his gameplan...Les didn't.
Les allowed it become what it was.
The score was 9-0 at half...no adjustment
15-0(2 score game heading into the 4th)
again not the defense in any way shape or form.
They opened up their attack and aired it out. On first down they would throw the ball and they remained balanced.
LSU just ran into the defense and threw screen passes for 3 QTRs watching the game get out of hand.
The first game was a pound the rock fest. Saban adjusted his gameplan...Les didn't.
Les allowed it become what it was.
The score was 9-0 at half...no adjustment
15-0(2 score game heading into the 4th)
again not the defense in any way shape or form.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:43 am to RedHawk
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I kind of agree, but the only chance LSU had of winning that game was for another 9-6 type score and their defense couldn't hold them to 9 again. It isn't like LSU did much on Offense the first time they played. The D knew they were going to have to play perfect to win, and they didn't. Bama did.
The defense did all they could. Bama had a dominant o-line, great RB, solid QB. Pretty good offense, and gameplan to go with it. Our offense couldn't put together a drive to help our D stay fresh or get good field position.
You can blame the offense, QB, coaching, but the defense can't be blamed
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:46 am to hg
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Greatest Punt Return of all time
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:50 am to Tigerfan56
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You can blame the offense, QB, coaching, but the defense can't be blamed
I agree, but it can't be denied that TM7 gave up some big first downs in that game.
The bigger picture is that this is just an absurd question. There are hundreds of players that were better than TM7.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:50 am to TigerBait1127
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So they weren't trying to score touchdowns?
Bama was content to play it super safe on O and kick FGs. that's how much they dominated LSU that night
they knew our offense wasn't scoring and our team was sparked by turnovers/big STs plays. they took that away by playing safe
3-0 was a safe lead that night
domination
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:55 am to Tigerfan56
5 the number of first downs LSU got in the game.
1.4 the number of yards per carry LSU averaged
53 the total of passing yards in the game for JJ on 17 attempts...29 yards if you factor in sacks negating his positive throws
1 number of times LSU crossed the 50 yard line(4th qtr)
1.4 the number of yards per carry LSU averaged
53 the total of passing yards in the game for JJ on 17 attempts...29 yards if you factor in sacks negating his positive throws
1 number of times LSU crossed the 50 yard line(4th qtr)
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:00 am to Vanilla Ice
If he plays one more year like he did the first two and puts down the weed and IF LSU wins those 2 games in 2012, he enters the conversation. Too many "ifs" though.
Best LSU player I ever saw, though.
Best LSU player I ever saw, though.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:00 am to RedHawk
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He got lit up against Bama in the NC game. No way is a CB with bad coverage skills the GOAT.
This post is honestly just as dumb as the OP.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:02 am to Vanilla Ice
To me he is the GOAT. I have NEVER seen anyone like him, amazing! 
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:07 am to lsu480
You just don't see players dominate like Tyrian did. I never seen ball hawking and playmaking like that before. I would certainly throw him on a All Time Defense. The last dominate player on his level was Suh.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:12 am to TOKEN
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You just don't see players dominate like Tyrian did. I never seen ball hawking and playmaking like that before. I would certainly throw him on a All Time Defense.
The reason for that is because LSU was so talented that he could roam and LSU could do what they wanted with him. He was awesome in that role. Put him on a team where he had to try and lock down one side of the field and he would be exposed or just another above average player.
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The last dominate player on his level was Suh
Suh was on another level. He was double teamed and the focal point of the defense with holes in other places and still dominated.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:26 am to Hester Carries
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Desmond Howard and maybe Charles Woodson locking down the outsides.
WHAT!!!!
Howard was not a DB.
The best player I have seen was Tim Brown and then possibly Champ Bailey. I think the Rocket was more of a game breaker than the Honey Badger.
Just going off College performances and not how they are in pros my list is as follows
QB Tebow
RB Sanders or Billy Sims
WR Anthony Carter
Utility Tim Brown
CB Sanders or Lott
S Berry
As far as Punt Returns the GOAT was Joe Adams vs Tennessee
But the biggest was the phantom clip vs CU in Orange Bowl that cost Notre Dame a National Championship. Everyone in the stadium knew if Rocket got the ball he was returning it for a TD.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:30 am to RedHawk
The hell are you talking about? That Nebraska defense was legit and put 5 or 6 guys in the pros. People who try to diminish what Matheiu did just make me laugh, dude was unreal and one of a kind.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:35 am to floridatigah
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People who try to diminish what Matheiu did just make me laugh, dude was unreal and one of a kind.
Not saying he wasn't good, cause he obviously was. Just think he was overrated and no where near the GOAT. That is more laughable.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:35 am to floridatigah
I thought David was a year or two behind Suh.
Was Amakumurah on that Defense? I thought he was same class as David.
Was Amakumurah on that Defense? I thought he was same class as David.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:40 am to sms151t
Yea Prince was. Asante as well and they had a good pair of safety's.
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