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re: Why does Bama get a Mulligan?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:03 am to NashBamaFan
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:03 am to NashBamaFan
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Do you realize what you just said? You would rather have the 4 "most deserving teams" than the "4 best teams" in a playoff? That's the dumbest shite I've ever heard. Just plain fricking dumb!
Are you retarded? if Alabama loses by 1 in a competitive game, on a fluke play at the end of the game this weekend, they'd have two losses but they'd still be considered one of the four best teams in the country. Should they still be in the playoffs? The answer is frick no.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:08 am to RedHawk
Should we just give the natty to the last power 5 unbeaten? Do we need to take OSUs title and give it to FSU?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:14 am to rolltide32
No, but at this point in the season, P5 undefeateds should be above the one loss teams. Using last weeks criteria, LSU should be at worst 5 or 6, but they will probably be around 9 or 10. Bama should be sniffing the top 4 this week instead of being 2,3,or 4 with a home loss to a 3 loss team.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:14 am to rolltide32
Bama is in my top 4 today, and should be in if they win out.
last week, however, there were undefeated teams from P5 conferences who had won 8 games that were behind a team who had already lost once and that didn't sit well with me. Bama hadn't looked great in some of their wins either (Tenn and Arky), so the 'eye test' was somewhat failing as well to me
Now they beat LSU and OM lost and they control their destiny, so who cares what anyone else says
last week, however, there were undefeated teams from P5 conferences who had won 8 games that were behind a team who had already lost once and that didn't sit well with me. Bama hadn't looked great in some of their wins either (Tenn and Arky), so the 'eye test' was somewhat failing as well to me
Now they beat LSU and OM lost and they control their destiny, so who cares what anyone else says
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:49 am to ehole
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Can you explain the NFL draft sec bias. You'd figure with billions on the line we wouldn't be almost a decade straight of most draft picks... unless it was true.
The ACC is a close 2nd so yeah not sure what NFL draft picks have to do with anything
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:27 am to Buckeye06
quote:Computers had Alabama at #4 last week. The vast majority of this math is done by people from nowhere near Alabama (remember, it's math), so you can't reasonably claim a Bama/SEC bias here.
last week, however, there were undefeated teams from P5 conferences who had won 8 games that were behind a team who had already lost once and that didn't sit well with me.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:35 am to FootballNostradamus
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If it was the later, Bama does not deserve to be in. If you ask me if they're one of the 4 best teams, I'd probably agree with you. I don't think they've played a single really good team this season, though. The SEC is as down as they've ever been. Everyone in that conference sucks outside of Bama.
Despite what happened on Saturday night, LSU is a really good team. That just speaks more to Bama's dominance and the way they've been playing.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:50 am to gatorhata9
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Despite what happened on Saturday night, LSU is a really good team. That just speaks more to Bama's dominance and the way they've been playing.
No they're not. You and LSU are both average.
Bama's schedule is as easy as what FSU ran through in the ACC the last two years.
Playing ND and FSU is as difficult if not moreso than the schedule Bama will play this year.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:37 am to FootballNostradamus
Never go full retard.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:48 am to FootballNostradamus
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Playing ND and FSU is as difficult if not moreso than the schedule Bama will play this year.
How so?
Who have ND or FSU beaten to prove their worth?
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:58 am to NashBamaFan
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Do you realize what you just said? You would rather have the 4 "most deserving teams" than the "4 best teams" in a playoff? That's the dumbest shite I've ever heard. Just plain fricking dumb!
Then why play the games? If its just about an eye test the games mean nothing. I love when idiots call other people dumb
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:11 pm to ballscaster
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Computers had Alabama at #4 last week
The next time a computer plays a football game let me know
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:21 pm to Buckeye06
quote:Dumb point. A scoreboard doesn't play either, but it uses simple arithmetic to determine the winner.
computer plays a football game let me know
Jerk Store: Didn't you just poo poo the idea of the eye test a few posts up? Which is it, man?
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:42 pm to ballscaster
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Dumb point. A scoreboard doesn't play either, but it uses simple arithmetic to determine the winner. Jerk Store: Didn't you just poo poo the idea of the eye test a few posts up? Which is it, man?
You love to come in near the time when rankings come out for basketball and football and validate or make things invalid based on your criteria
Using just the eye test or just the SOS argument is not the right way. It should be a balance. Therefore, although Alabama had a computer score of 4, I said they didn't look good and therefore were not in my top 4 last week. Now it is meaningless as if they win out they are in and if they lose they are out
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:07 pm to RedHawk
You mean after they just owned the #2 team in the county who was unbeaten?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:20 pm to Othello
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You mean after they just owned the #2 team in the county who was unbeaten?
If that happened in another conference it would be because one team was vastly overrated. However, since it's the SEC, sure, whatever floats your boat
They are in it for me because it is take 3 champs who could finish undefeated, then you have to decide between Bama, Stanford and ND (if all plays out). Bama to me is playing better than the other 2, when taking into account both the strength of the teams they are playing and how they have looked overall.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:10 pm to Othello
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You mean after they just owned the #2 team in the county who was unbeaten?
USCw owned the #3 team in the country who was unbeaten. So what?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:27 pm to RedHawk
They. Are. BAMA. 
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:40 pm to Tiger the Hutt
USC has three losses what's your point?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:47 pm to Buckeye06
quote:We used to have that. It didn't work. The BCS was introduced specifically because the polls were unreliable. We introduced computers into the mix. The system wasn't good enough for us, and the last straw seemed to be when Bama got in over Oklahoma State in 2011. Now we have a committee/poll that decides things. It's ironic since in 2011 it was the polls, and not the computers, who had Bama at #2.
Using just the eye test or just the SOS argument is not the right way. It should be a balance.
The eye test told us that Michigan was better than Sparty. The scoreboard--that is, a very simple arithmetic formula--told us otherwise. Regardless of our opinions of the two teams, we go with the scoreboard, and that's that. Why are we so averse to such a technique on a grander, more complicated scale? Why the hell would we trust human opinions with this when we have comprehensive math?
A great example happened last year. Baylor, TCU, and Ohio State were in the debate for that 4th spot.
Ohio State had a better record than the other two.
Ohio State's opponents had a better combined record than the other two's combined opponents.
Ohio State's opponents' opponents had a better combined record than the other two's opponents' opponents.
Why even attempt to frick that up with the eye test? Ohio State was #4, and they earned their spot. The other two had lesser records and weaker schedules. Why is there even an argument? The comprehensive numbers speak for themselves. I love Condi, and she knows her football, but we don't need her.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 4:51 pm
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